2007 Ford Expedition Power Train

WHEN YOU DRIVE THE VEHICLE AND COME TO A STOP, IE: (INTERSECTION) THE VEHICLE WILL GO INTO NEUTRAL WHILE IT'S IN DRIVE AND UPON PRESSING THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL, IT ENTERS A SAFETY TYPE MODE WITH NO INDICATION AND WILL REMAIN IN GEAR ZERO FOR APPROXIMATELY 1-2 SECONDS AND THEN AS IT STARTS MOVING, IT DOES SO WITH VERY LITTLE POWER LEAVING THE VEHICLE IN DANGER OF GETTING STRUCK BY ANOTHER VEHICLE FROM CROSS TRAFFIC. AT THIS TIME, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS CAUSING THIS ISSUE BUT IT SEEMS TO BE COMMON VIA THE INTERNET COMPLAINTS ON THE 6R80 TRANSMISSIONS ON FORD VEHICLES. THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME 4 TIMES WHILE TRYING TO CROSS MULTI LANE HIGHWAYS BUT THE MOST RECENTLY CAME VERY CLOSE TO WHAT COULD HAVE ENDED INTO A MULTIPLE FATAL ACCIDENT WITH A SEMI TRUCK WHO WAS BARELY ABLE TO STOP IN TIME BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO CROSS A 3 LANE HIGHWAY. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE VEHICLE GO BACK TO NORMAL BY SIMPLY SHUTTING OFF THE VEHICLE AND RESTARTING IT. WHAT MAKES THIS REALLY DANGEROUS, IS THE DRIVER SUCH AS ME BEING UNAWARE THAT MY VEHICLE IS IN A SAFETY RESTRICTED POWER OUTPUT WHEN THIS HAPPENS. NO WARNING UNTIL YOU COMMIT INTO A DEADLY SITUATION. PEOPLE REPORT THIS ISSUE ON THE INTERNET AS THE VEHICLE GOING INTO NEUTRAL BY ITSELF WHEN COMING TO A STOP. WHEN THEY TRY TO RESUME DRIVING THE VEHICLE RPMS WILL INCREASE AND THE VEHICLE MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT POP INTO GEAR SOFTLY OR FORCEFULLY. SOMETIMES WITH FULL ACCELERATION AUTHORITY AND SOMETIMES WITH A MAX ATTAINABLE SPEED OF 5 MPH OR LESS DEPENDING ON THE GRADIENT AND TERRAIN UNTIL YOU CAN REACH A SAFE SPOT AND RESTART THE VEHICLE.

VEHICLE WAS TRAVELING ABOUT 70 MPH ON THE INTERSTATE. PRESSED ACCELERATOR TO PASS A TRACTOR TRAILER. THE VEHICLE DOWNSHIFTED TO PASS (AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION), BUT THEN DOWNSHIFTED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 1ST GEAR ON ITS OWN, WHICH IMMEDIATELY REVVED THE ENGINE UP TO RED LINE (5000 RPM) AND CAUSED THE REAR TIRES TO START TO SLOW TO LESS THAN VEHICLE SPEED. AS A RESULT, THE TIRES STARTED SMOKING AND CAUSED THE VEHICLE TO SKID SIDEWAYS TO THE RIGHT OFF THE ROAD AND DOWN THE EMBANKMENT. LUCKILY, I WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN SOME CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE DOWN THE GRASSY EMBANKMENT AND FINALLY GET THE TRANSMISSION SLIPPED INTO NEUTRAL TO REGAIN CONTROL OF THE REAR TIRES AND NARROWLY AVOID CRASHING. THE ONLY REASON THERE WAS NOT A CRASH WAS DUE TO THAT SECTION OF THE INTERSTATE HAVING A RELATIVELY SHALLOW GRASSY DOWNWARD EMBANKMENT. 1000 FEET IN EITHER DIRECTION OF THAT INTERSTATE WOULD HAVE CAUSED A MULTI-CAR ACCIDENT. ONCE THE VEHICLE WAS STOPPED, I WAS ABLE TO GET IT BACK INTO GEAR AND DRIVE IT UP TO THE SHOULDER OF THE INTERSTATE. I WAS ABLE TO GET THE VEHICLE SAFELY BACK TO MY HOME. ONCE HOME, I WAS ABLE TO RESEARCH THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING FORD RECALL FOR THIS ISSUE, BUT IT IS ONLY ON 2012 EXPEDITIONS AND 2011-2012 FORD F-150S WITH THE 6R80 TRANSMISSION. MY VEHICLE HAS THE 6R75 TRANSMISSION, WHICH WAS THE PREDECESSOR TO THE RECALLED ONE ABOVE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 FORD EXPEDITION. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE ATTEMPTING TO TOW A BOAT OUT OF THE WATER, THERE WAS A SUDDEN INCREASE OF ENGINE RPMS AND THE TRANSMISSION FAILED TO ENGAGE PREVENTING THE VEHICLE FROM MOVING. THE CONTACT MENTIONED THAT HE HAD TO TURN OFF AND RESTART THE VEHICLE IN ORDER FOR IT TO RESUMED NORMAL FUNCTION. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER. THE TECHNICIAN WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 105,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 107,000.

THE WIRING HARNESS FROM THE TRANSMISSION TO THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT CROSSES OVER THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER ON THE PASSENGER SIDE. THERE ARE A SERIES OF CLIPS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HOLD THE WIRE HARNESS CLOSE TO THE UNDER BODY OF THE CHASSIS. THESE CLIPS PREVENT THE WIRING HARNESS FROM TOUCHING THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER. DURING USE, THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER GETS HOT AND THIS HEAT DEGRADES THE PLASTIC CLIPS TO THE POINT WHERE THE ARE BRITTLE AND FAIL. THIS CAN RESULT IN THE WIRE HARNESS CONTACTING THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER. THE HEAT FROM THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER SUBSEQUENTLY DESTROYS THE WIRING AND INSULATION TO THE POINT THAT THE ECM RECEIVES ERRONEOUS INDICATIONS FROM THE TRANSMISSION. IF EXPOSED FOR SUFFICIENT TIME THE CONDITION COULD CAUSE AN ACCIDENT DUE TO THE TRANSMISSION BEGIN IN LIMP MODE, SUDDENLY FAILING OR A FIRE DUE TO THE WIRING HARNESS IGNITING. *TR

2007 EXPEDITION 2 WD 5.4 6SPD. AUTO PARK LOCK DEVICE WAS NOT WORKING. CAR COULD BE SHIFTED FROM PARK WITHOUT KEYS OR APPLYING THE BRAKE. CAR ROLLED DOWN A HILL ACROSS A STREET DOWN ANOTHER HILL INTO A CREEK WITH 5YR OLD CHILD AND DOG IN CAR. PURCHASED CERTIFIED PRE OWNED LESS THAN 1 MONTH AGO. *TR

VEHICLE OFTEN FAILS TO MOVE WHEN ON AN INCLINE, E.G., PULLING BOAT OUT OF WATER ON LAUNCH RAMP; BACKING VEHICLE UP STEEP DRIVEWAY. WHEN THE ACCELERATOR IS DEPRESSED, ENGINE DOES NOT RESPOND AND VEHICLE WILL NOT MOVE. I HAVE TO TURN ENGINE OFF AND AFTER A FEW SECONDS, TURN IT ON AGAIN BEFORE IT WILL MOVE. I HAVE TAKEN THIS VEHICLE TO THE DEALER TWO OR THREE TIMES (UNKNOWN) AND THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND PROBLEM AND REPAIR. I AM NOW OUT OF WARRANTY AND FORD REFUSES TO HANDLE THIS COMPLAINT. I HAVE WRITTEN TO FORD AND THEY DO NOT CARE TO RESPOND. *TR

VEHICLE LEFT PARKED ON FLAT SURFACE, I GOT BACK IN AFTER IT HAD BEEN PARKED FOR ABOUT 5 MINUTES.. AS SOON AS I GOT IN, THE VEHICLE STARTED ROLLING FORWARD. I IMMEDIATELY APPLIED THE BRAKE AND CHECKED THAT THE SHIFTER WAS FULLY IN "PARK", WHICH IT WAS. AS SOON AS I LET OFF THE BRAKE, THE VEHICLE ROLLED ABOUT ANOTHER FOOT BEFORE STOPPING ITSELF. *TR

IT WAS 5/5/09, MY WIFE WAS DRIVING VEHICLE ON A 'CHIP AND SEALED' STREET. SHE PARKED IT ON THE SHOULDER AND WENT TO SOME YARD SALES. SHE RETURN TO THE VEHICLE AND WAS BACKING IT, TO TURN AROUND. THE ENGINE CHANGED SOUND AND BEGAN TO REV UP. [SHE WAS NOW HALF ITS LENGTH UP A CONCRETE DRIVEWAY.] WITH HER FOOT STILL ON THE BRAKE PEDDLE SHE IMMEDIATELY SHIFT THE TRANSMISSION INTO A FORWARD. THE ENGINE WAS REALLY LOUD AND REVVING UP WITH THE REAR TIRES SQUEALING, AND SPINNING, THE VEHICLE'S FRONT TIRES BEGIN TO SLIDE ON THE GRAVEL OF THE 'CHIP AND SEAL' AND THEN SLIDE ON THE CRUSHED ROCK OF THE NEXT DRIVE WAY. WITH HER FOOT STILL FIRMLY ON THE BRAKE PEDDLE AND NOW BOTH HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL, THE VEHICLE LUNGES AND SCOOTS FORWARD OUT OF CONTROL ON ITS OWN, PLOWING INTO A BRICK MAIL BOX. AS THE VEHICLE IS PLOWING OVER THE MAIL BOX, THE ENGINE SUDDENLY IDLES DOWN AND THE VEHICLE STOPS MOVING. MY WIFE HAD NEVER REMOVED HER FOOT FROM THE BRAKE PEDDLE UNTIL AFTER SHE SHUT THE ENGINE OFF. THE BRICK MAIL BOX WAS TOTALLY DESTROYED COSTING AND THE EXPEDITION HAD DAMAGE TO THE GRILL AND FRONT FASCIA. THE COUNTY SHERIFF WAS CALLED TO THE SCENE AND THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE DEALERSHIP. AFTER 3 WKS THEY FOUND NOTHING WRONG AND DECLARED IT WAS SAFE TO DRIVE. *TR

WHEN PUTTING THE 2007 FORD EXPEDITION EL INTO REVERSE THE TRANSMISSION WOULD SLAM INTO REVERSE. THIS HAS HAPPENED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. WHEN TAKEN TO THE DEALER THEY COULDN'T DUPLICATE THE CONCERN AND THEN CHECKED FOR UPDATES. THE ECM HAS THE MOST CORRECT UPDATES. *TR

ENGINES LUGS ON TAKE OFF, WE WERE AT THE FREEWAY SEVERAL TIMES AND THE VEHICLE WOULD HESITATE BEFORE MOVING. THIS HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST 9 MONTHS TOOK VEHICLE IN AND THEY COULD NOT FIND A PROBLEM. THEY SAID THE ECM HAS THE MOST CURRENT UPDATES. THE VEHICLE HAS ONLY BEEN DRIVEN A FEW TIMES SINCE AUG. 13TH, 2008. WE ARE CURRENTLY ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE SUNROOF, WAITING ON FORD MOTOR CO. REGARDING THAT ISSUE. *TR

IN THE MORNING WHEN FIRST STARTING OUT DRIVING THE VEHICLE WILL LURCH FORWARD AND THEN SOMETIMES WILL BECOME SLUGGISH, THEN SURGE OF POWER. DEALER COULD NOT DUPLICATE CONCERN, BUT THE FOUND AN UPDATE FOR THE ECM, RE-FLASHED THE ECM AND TEST DROVE, VEHICLE OPERATED AS DESIGNED. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 FORD EXPEDITION. WHEN COMING TO A COMPLETE STOP, THE VEHICLE LUNGES FORWARD. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AND THEY RESET THE RPM'S. AFTER THE REPAIR, THE FAILURE IMMEDIATELY RECURRED. THE TECHNICIAN ADDED THAT THE TRANSMISSION WAS DESIGNED TO DOWNSHIFT AND THAT THERE WAS NO CURRENT REMEDY TO REPAIR THE FAILURE. AS OF OCTOBER 10, 2008, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY REPAIRED. THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 10,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 23,400.

WE HAVE A 2007 FORD EXPEDITION WITH A REMOTE ELECTRIC START INSTALLED IN THE TRUCK. WHEN YOU REMOTE START THE VEHICLE THEN GET INTO THE VEHICLE WITH THE KEYS OUT OF THE IGNITION YOU ARE ABLE TO PUT YOUR FOOT ON THE BRAKE PEDAL AND MOVE THE GEAR SHIFT TO ANY POSITION........... THIS HAS BEEN WITNESSED BY THE FORD DEALER WHO WAS SHOCKED, BUT HAS TOLD ME ITS WORKING THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED........... IF YOU TEST THIS,,,,,,, REMOTE START THE VEHICLE THEN SIT IN THE DRIVERS SEAT, PUT YOUR FOOT ON THE PEDAL AND MOVE THE SHIFTER. THE CAR WILL SHUT OFF AS ITS SUPPOSE TO AND ONCE THE ENGINE DIES THE SHIFTER WILL NOT MOVE. ITS JUST FOR THE SPLIT OF 3 TO 10 SECONDS IT TAKES FOR THE ENGINE TO STOP THAT SHIFTER IS FREE TO MOVE ..........IF A CHILD IS TO ENTER THE VEHICLE AND PUT THEIR FOOT ON THE PEDAL THEY WILL HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF TIME TO MOVE THE SHIFTER AND ONCE YOU MOVE THE SHIFTER THAT CAR IS FREE TO ROLL AT ANYTIME AND THE SHIFTER CAN STILL MOVE .............................................................. THE PROBLEM AS I SEE IT. IF I REMOTE START THE VEHICLE AND A CHILD CLIMBS INTO THE VEHICLE AND PRETENDS TO DRIVE PUTS HIS FOOT ON THE BRAKE AND MOVES THE SHIFTER, THE CAR IS GOING TO ROLL AND IT NEVER HAD THE KEYS IN THE IGNITION..................... I PARK ON A HILL AND THIS GOOD EASILY KILL SOMEONE IF THE VEHICLE ROLLS...................THE FIX WOULD BE NOT ALLOW THE GEAR SHIFT TO MOVE OUT OF PARK WITH OUT THE KEYS IN THE IGNITION. I WAS ADVISED BY FORD NOT TO REMOTE START MY VEHICLE WITH THE DOORS UNLOCKED AND THAT'S FINE FOR ME, BUT FOR THE REST OF THE DRIVERS OF THESE TRUCKS WHO KNOWS. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS MUST HAVE BEEN MISSED BY FORD. THE IGNITION NEEDS TO SEE THE KEY BEFORE IT RELEASES THE SHIFTER. JUST MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. *TR

2007 FORD EXPEDITION MILEAGE ~34,000 I HAVE TAKEN MY 2007 FORD EXPEDITION INTO THE SHOP NOW ON 3 SEPARATE OCCASIONS FOR THE SAME ISSUE. THE FIRST AND SECOND TIME THE PROBLEM WAS LISTED AT UN-FOUND, AND THE 3RD TIME IT WAS IN THE SHOW THEY STATED THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF AN ISSUE BUT THERE IS CURRENTLY NO FIRE AVAILABLE. THE ISSUE: *WHEN SLOWING DOWN TO A STOP, THE VEHICLE SEEMS TO STAY IN A HIGHER GEAR AND THEN DOWNSHIFTS HARD, AND COMES TO A STOP. *WHILE ACCELERATING FROM A STOP THE VEHICLE SEEMS TO HESITATE VERY BADLY, THEN TAKE OFF. THIS HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY SCARY WHEN PULLING OUT INTO TRAFFIC BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO "CATCH" AND TAKE OFF. I HAVE BASICALLY STARTED TO LEAVE MYSELF 10X THE ROOM NEEDED TO PULL OUT TO AVOID AN INJURY. *AT 35 MILES PER HOUR, WHEN THE ACCELERATOR IS DEPRESSED TO SPEED UP A CLUNKING NOISE IS HEARD, AND THE VEHICLE HESITATES THEN DECIDES TO MOVE. IT IS ALMOST AS IF THE ACCELERATOR IS NOT TELLING THE TRUCK TO GO! *THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD VEHICLE, BUT FORD HAS BEEN COVERING THIS ISSUE UP FOR MANY MONTHS NOW! THIS IS GOING TO END UP KILLING SOMEONE ONE DAY IF IT IS NOT FIXED! WRITTEN BY A CORPORATE SAFETY SPECIALIST. *TR

I PURCHASED A 2007 EXPEDITION IN OCT. 06 AND ABOUT 6 MONTHS AGO, I NOTICED THAT WHEN I CAME TO A STOP I FELT A KICK AFTERWARDS. SLOWLY IT PROGRESSED TO A HARDER PUSH, WHERE IT ACTUALLY FEELS LIKE SOMEONE HIT ME FROM BEHIND. I TOOK IT FOR SERVICE AT MY LOCAL FORD DEALER IN OCTOBER 07 AND THEY HAD ORDERS FROM FORD TO RECALIBRATE THE TRANSMISSION FOR NOW UNTIL THEY FOUND A FIX FOR THE PROBLEM IN MID-NOVEMBER. THE RECALIBRATION WORKED FOR 1 WEEK AND NOW THE PROBLEM HAS RETURNED. AGAIN I CONTACTED THE LOCAL FORD DEALER AND THEY CLAIM NOT TO HAVE A FIX YET. I NEED THIS FIX . *TR

ON TWO OCCASIONS IN THE LAST MONTH, THE VEHICLE WHILE IN PARK AND THE KEYS OUT OF THE IGNITION, THE VEHICLE ON ITS OWN ROLLED BACKWARDS AT LEAST 20 FEET. *TR

SINCE PURCHASING THE VEHICLE IN OCTOBER OF 2006, THE TRANSMISSION SEEMED SLUGGISH AT STOPS WHEN ACCELERATING, I HAVE TAKING THE VEHICLE INTO A FORD DEALERSHIP THREE OR MORE TIMES AND NOW THE TRANSMISSION IS STILL SLUGGISH WHEN MOVING FROM A STOP. I TOOK IT BACK TO A DEALER AND FORD SERVICE SAID THAT A MEMO SAID NOT TO WORK ON MY TRANSMISSION UNTIL THE UPDATE FOR SOFTWARE IS ISSUED SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER. THIS IS AT LEAST A MONTH AWAY AND THE VEHICLE IS NOT SAFE FOR MY WIFE AND FAMILY TO DRIVE IN. I HAVE A FORD REP WHO WE ASKED TO SUPPLY US WITH A RENTAL CAR AND THEY ARE SAYING WE CAN RENT A CAR AND THEY WILL REVIEW IT WHEN THE VEHICLE IS FIXED AND DECIDE IF THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THE RENTAL. THIS IS RIDICULOUS TO BE TREATED THIS WAY BY SUCH A HUGE CORPORATION. *TR

THIS 2007 EXPEDITION WILL NOT HOLD WHILE STOPPED ON A HILL EITHER IN DRIVE OR REVERSE. WHEN IN EITHER GEAR THE CAR WILL DRIFT NOTICEABLY. WHEN ATTEMPTING TO BACK UP WHILE ON A DOWN GRADE HILL THE BRAKE HAS TO BE HELD AND GAS MUST BE APPLIED SO THAT THE VEHICLE COULD SAFELY BACK UP WITHOUT IT SPINNING TIRE.*AK

TL*- THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE 2007 FORD EXPEDITION EL HAD TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS FROM THE DAY HE DROVE THE VEHICLE OFF THE PARKING LOT OF THE DEALERSHIP. WHEN COMING TO A STOP AND TRYING TO ACCELERATE THE VEHICLE STAYED IN A HIGH GEAR AND THE ENGINE REVVED. THE VEHICLE ACCELERATED IN THE WRONG GEAR. THE TRANSMISSION SLIPPED WHEN DRIVING WITH THE VEHICLE FULL OF PASSENGERS. HE TOOK THE VEHCILE TO THE DEALERSHIP ON 02/07/07 WHICH WAS THE APPOINTMENT DATE THE DEALERSHIP GAVE HIM, AND THE DEALERSHIP TOOK THE VEHICLE FOR A TEST RIDE WITH THE CONTACT, AND THE SERVICE MECHANIC INFORMED HIM THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THE TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS ON THE 2007 FORD EXPEDITIONS, BUT THEY HAVD NO REMDEY FOR THE FAILURE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT DURING ONE INCIDENT HE TRIED TO ACCELERATE AFTER STOPPING IN TRAFFIC AND WAS CONCERNED THAT ANOTHER VEHICLE WOULD HIT HIM BECAUSE THE VEHICLE DIDN'T ACCELORATE PROPERLY. THE CONTACT NOTICED THE PROBLEM WITH THE TRANSMISSON SLIPPING AFTER DRIVING THE VEHICLE FOR TWENTY MILES. HE STATED THAT HE NOW HAD 1,600 MILES ON THE VEHCILE, AND FELT THAT THE MANUFACTURER ALONG WITH THE DEALERSHIP SHOULD HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THIS SAFETY PROBLEM . *AK UPDATED 03/30/07. *JB