2017 Honda Civic FUEL/PROPULSION SYSTEM

The car stalls upon acceleration while driving. At times it will stall in the middle of the road; skipping repeatedly or simply not accelerating at all. There are often no warning signs at all, though when it skips repeatedly upon acceleration, the engine check light will appear. The car can be available for inspection upon request.

The contact owns a 2017 Honda Civic. The contact stated that a gasoline smell was detected in and around the vehicle. No warning lights were illuminated. The vehicle was driven to the closest independent repair shop and diagnosed with a fuel pump crack/failure. After investigating the failure, the contact related the failure to NHTSA Campaign Number: 23V858000 (Fuel System, Gasoline) but the VIN was not included. The local dealership was notified of the failure but referred the contact to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was 88,000.

The Civic idles low after coming to a stop. Idles approximately 500 rpm’s. Periodically it will drop below 500 and stall. About 3 occurrences so far. Once at 500, there is no throttle response. The pedal can be fully depressed and the motor will continue to idle. Throttle response will occur anywhere from 5 to 10 seconds later. My work around is to take the car out of DRIVE and put it back. This solves problem. Mostly. I may have to do that a second time. Reverse is different. The car doesn’t move at all 100% of the time. And it takes me to move in and out of Reverse to get it to move. There are occasions that the throttle will activate. But, if you lift off the throttle…. It won’t engage. Below asks when this happens. It began over a year ago. I would depress the throttle and could count to 3 before going. Now it’s longer than 10. But, since I’ve learned about taking the car out of gear.

Fuel injectors failing before 65,000 miles, causing cylinder 1, 2, and 3 misfires consistently. This problem is known by Honda, but was never recalled. This is on all of the 1.5L engine models sold after 2016. They have even created a new part with the necessary flex joints to correct the issue, but charge out of pocket for inevitable and completely unavoidable replacement. This is nearly a $1400 repair from an OEM part that is guaranteed to fail around 60-70k miles. Multiple cylinder misfires have cause complete loss of throttle power and acceleration while driving on multiple occasions, and should provide cause for concern as an inoperable vehicle due to manufacturer quality failure is completely unsafe and should not be pinned on the owner of the vehicle. I have been left with no choice but to save up money, while living paycheck to paycheck in capitalist America, to replace these DEALERSHIP ONLY injectors while risking a flooding of catalytic converter with raw fuel due to system failure. Multiple safety features, including traction control and power steering assistance, are completely inoperable due to these misfires caused by faulty OEM fuel injectors. This issue is a SAFETY concern and also a vehicular health concern. I should not be given the “destroy your vehicle and risk your safety or replace a $1300 part out of pocket” dilemma because of quality failure at production levels.

My fuel injectors have failed for the second time today. The first time they failed at 54k miles and the second time they failed at 94k miles. Both times I was on the expressway driving at least 55mph when suddenly the car does not accelerate and I am forced to pull over as my car slows down. This is dangerous when I am on the expressway and suddenly I cannot maintain a safe rate of speed for this kind of road. Honda refused to replace the injectors the first time because I was past my general 36k mile warranty although I was still within my 60k powertrain warranty. Although the manufacturer of the injectors Keihin considers the injectors a powertrain component, Honda does not by definition in their warranty. I am now left with a repair bill of over $500 for the second time for fuel injectors and a fuel rail. Honda needs to be held responsible and ordered to issue a recall for this widespread issue.

Fuel injectors failed twice and part is on back order

The fuel injectors failed at 73,000miles. It can be inspected at a Honda dealership for their hourly labor rate. The car starts to display the following warning messages and lights; Emission system problem, Brake system problem, Brake hold system problem, Power steering system (EPS) problem, vehicle stability assist (VSA) problem, Hill start assist problem and then it goes into limp mode. I couldn’t safely drive on the interstate highway I drive everyday to and from work. It is dangerous to be driving 70+mph and suddenly not be able to drive even 15mph. I have to merge through 4 lanes of traffic and I’m losing speed and power. I have to put my hazard lights on and other drivers are swerving around me and beeping their horns (and worse) at me. I bought a second set of injectors from a Honda dealership and they confirmed that they knew there are issues. This set lasted just over 18months (about 55,000miles). At that point the following warning messages and lights started coming on; Emission system problem, Brake system problem, Brake hold system problem, Power steering system (EPS) problem, vehicle stability assist (VSA) problem, Hill start assist problem and then it would begin going into limp mode again. I went back to the same Honda dealership to talk to them about this issue and they said Honda has a new part number and they cannot order the same injectors I currently have (my second set) and they couldn’t explain the difference between the “old part #” injectors and the “new part #” injectors. So they ordered me a new set and warned me that they are on back order and there is a list of people who have also ordered. I have been waiting for almost 2 months now and frequently call to inquire on the status of my order and they say they cannot tell me anything because they have not heard from Honda and have no information about the status of any of the orders.

Fuel pump failed at 87463 miles Making a grinding noise and had to recede the speed from 50 mph to 25 mph to get to my destination. The engine sounded like it was misfiring and engine lines along with errors showed up in the dashboard.

Running rich and every time it throws a rich code or misfire code its throwing codes relating to steering failure, emissions failure, break failure, stability failure when as well as codes saying plugs and a factory remap of the ecu.

THE A/C ON THESE VEHICLES STOP WORKING AFTER A WHILE. KNOW OTHER PEOPLE THAT OWN A 2016/2017 HONDA CIVIC AND THE A/C STOPS WORKING. WE'VE ALL TOOK IT BACK TO THE DEALER TO GET IT CHECKED OUT AND THEY TRY CHARGING AN ARM TO FIX IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR US CUSTOMERS TO BE BUYING FULL PRICE FOR THESE VEHICLES WHEN THEY KNOW THE AFFECTS THEY HAVE AND THEN STEAL FROM US TO GET IT FIXED.

I HAVE AN ACCELERATION PROBLEM VERY CERIUM IN MY HONDA CIVIC 2017, IT IS ABOUT ACCELERATION, IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE GOING ON THE FREEWAY THROUGH THE CARPOOL AND SUDDENLY THE DRIVER IN FRONT STOPS IF YOU TRY TO BRAKE BUT ONCE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO REACH TO BRAKE THE BRAKE AND ACCELERATE TRYING TO AVOID THE ACCIDENT BUT YOUR CAR AFTER RELEASING THE BRAKE PEDAL AND ACCELERATING DOES NOT ACCELERATE AND YOU AS YOU RELEASED THE BREAKERS YOU STAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FREEWAY FOR 5 SECONDS WITH CARS GOING AT 70 MPH WELL THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY MANY ALMOST ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THE ACCELERATION PEDAL DID NOT RESPOND CORRECTLY, LUCKILY NEITHER MY WIFE NOR I HAVE HAD ACCIDENTS ALTHOUGH BOTH OF US HAVE FELT THAT LACK OF ACCELERATION WHEN YOU NEED IT AND THE WORST THING IS THAT THE MECHANICS AND AGENTS OF THE DEALER MAKE FUN OF ONE TELLING ME THAT IT IS A COMMON PROBLEM OR THAT MY MAT WAS POORLY ACCOMMODATED OR THAT THE MECHANIC TELLS ME THAT HE FELT THE FAULT BUT THE LAST ONE ON THE PAPER SAYS THAT THEY DID NOT FIND ANYTHING AND JUST DO AN "UPDATE" WHEN MY LIFE AND MY WIFE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN AT RISK MORE THAN 1 TIME, I BRING MY CAR 10 TIMES TO THE DEALER AND I ALWAYS RECEIVE THE SAME ANSWER AND THIS LAST TIME MY WIFE BRING THE CAR AND THE SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM ACCORDING TO THE MECHANICS WAS TO DO GENERAL MAINTENANCE ON ALL FLUIDS WITH COSTS ABOVE $ 800 BECAUSE THE WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER THAT EVEN WHEN MY CAR IS UNDER WARRANTY, FOR MY PART I TOOK THE CAR TO ANOTHER CERTIFIED MECHANIC AND AFTER REVIEWING IT HE TOLD ME THAT EVERYTHING WAS NONSENSE, ALL THE FLUIDS WERE CLEAN. HE ALSO EXPLAINED THAT IT IS ILLEGAL TO RECOMMEND FLUID CHANGE OR MAINTENANCE OF CERTAIN THINGS WITHOUT NO REASON AND EFFECTIVELY THE PAPER THAN THE DEALER GAVE ME HAS NO REASON WHY THEY WANTED TO SELL ALL THAT TO MY WIFE. *TR

OIL SMELLS OF GASOLINE

THE CAPLESS FUEL DESIGN FREEZES SHUT PREVENTING REFUELING UNTIL ICE DAM IS DEFROSTED. THIS COULD POSSIBLY LEAVE SOMEONE STRANDED AS I AM.

2017 HONDA CIVIC WAS BOUGHT NEW WITH 5 MILES ON JANUARY 6, 2017 AND THE FOLLOWING PROBLEMS HAVE OCCURRED: MILEAGE 3435 CHECK ENGINE LIGHT, MILEAGE 3813 CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND SOP SHUTTER SET INSTALLED, MILEAGE 4242 CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND CRACKS IN TOP OF FUEL PUMP AND IT WAS LEAKING GAS, FUEL PUMP REPLACED AND THEN FUEL TANK HAD TO BE REPLACED