2002 Honda Odyssey SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC

THERE IS POPPING NOISE WHEN BACKING UP AND STOPPING. WHEN I EXIT THE HIGHWAY AND BRAKE TO SLOW DOWN THERE IS A SUDDEN JERK AS IF I STEPPED ON THE BRAKE HARD. OCCASIONALLY, WHEN BRAKING, THE INDICATOR LIGHTS ON THE DASH WILL FLASH ON AND THEN BACK OFF. *TR

ABS FAILED - UNABLE TO STEER AWAY FROM A VEHICLE THAT STOPPED SUDDENLY - FOUND BLOWN FUSIBLE LINK FOR ABS MOTOR - REPLACED AND ABS/TEC ONCE AGAIN OPERATIONAL. *JB

WHEN BRAKING VEHICLE ACCELERATED. DEALER COULD NOT FIND ANY DEFECTS.*AK

CONSUMER COMPLAINED THAT ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS BRAKE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR AND CAUSED EXTENDED STOPPING DISTANCE. DEALER WAS NOTIFIED FOR AN APPOINTMENT. *AK *TS

HI. I HAVE A 2002 HONDA ODYSSEY WITH A "SINKING BRAKE" PROBLEM. I AM BEING TOLD THAT THE PROBLEM IS NORMAL PER A "1995" HONDA SERVICE NEWS. THE BRAKE PEDAL MOVES TOWARDS THE FLOOR WHEN THE VAN IS STOPPED AND FEELS LIKE A FAULTY MASTER CYLINDER. HONDA OF AMERICA HAS BEEN UNRESPONSIVE TO MY CONCERNS. I AM TOLD IT IS COMMON YET NO MENTION IS MADE IN THE HANDBOOK AND THE REPAIRMAN AT THE LOCAL DEALER WHERE I BOUGHT THE VAN HAD NO IMMEDIATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROBLEM. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT SINCE A BRAKE PEDAL THAT SINKS IS A SIGN OF A FAILING MASTER CYLINDER, WHEN DO I (OR MY WIFE WHO IS THE PRIMARY DRIVER)GET CONCERNED. IF WE TREAT THE SINKING BRAKE PEDAL AS NORMAL AND THE MASTER CYLINDER DOES FAIL, WE COULD BE INVOLVED IN A REAREND ACCIDENT. WHY HAS NOT HONDA ENGINEERED THIS PROBLEM OUT SINCE 1995? PLEASE GET HONDA OF AMERICA TO ANSWER MY CONCERNS. SINCERELY, [XXX]. *LA INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR

VEHICLE: 2002 HONDA ODYSSEY, PURCHASED 11/2004. REAR BRAKE MAKES CLUNKING NOISE WHEN BACKING OR CHANGING DIRECTION.*AK FIRST BRING TO ATTENTATION TO SALES DEALER, NORM REEVES HONDA, MECHANIC SAYS NORMAL SOUND ON THIS MODEL. I REBUTTED WITH "I OWN BOTH A ACCORD AND CIVIC, THEY DON'T HAVE THIS SOUND". THAT'S JUST THIS MODEL. SECOND TIME, BROUGHT TO ATTENTATION TO GOUDY HONDA, SERVICE ADVISOR SAID, THAT'S NORMAL ON THIS MODEL. I GAVE THE SAME REBUTTAL. THEY REPLIED WITH ON NEXT VISIT, THEY WILL GREASE THE BRAKE, THE SOUND WILL DISAPPEAR. I DID BRING IT NEXT TIME FOR OIL CHANGE. SERVICE ADVISOR SAID THEY GREASED IT, BUT SOUND IS STILL THERE. THIRD TIME, CALL HONDA CORPORATE, REP SAID THAT'S NORMAL. ASK IF THERE'RE ANY KNOWN PROBLEM, REP SAID NO. I ASK HIM TO CHECK, HE SAID HE'S SURE THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH CAR. JUST HAVE THE DEALER REPLACE THE BRAKE & PAY FOR IT. WENT ON INTERNET, FOUND MANY ODYSSEY OWNER HAVE SAME PROBLEM. ALSO FOUND HONDA EVEN HAS A TSB OUT. NUMBER OF FAILURES, TOO MANY TO MENTION, IT'S DAILY. WHY DOESN'T DEALER NOR THE HONDA ADMIT THE PROBLEM! HAVE NOT REPORT THE FOLLOWING PROBLEM TO NEITHER DEALER NOR HONDA. THE SRS INDICATOR LIGHT CAME ON ONE DAY, I TURN OFF ENGINE & TURN ENGINE BACK ON. THE INDICATOR LIGHT WENT AWAY. THIS REMINDS ME OF ANOTHER STRANGE THING HAPPENDED A FEW MONTHS BACK. WHILE DRIVING ON FREEWAY. ALL THE SUDDEN, A BUNCH OF INDICATOR LIGHTS CAME ON, CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH, THE LIGHTS WENT OFF A FEW SECONDS LATER.

CONSUMER HEARD AN UNUSUAL NOISE FROM RIGHT REAR BRAKE AREA. DEALERSHIP COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM. *AK THE NOISE CAME FROM THE RIGHT WHEEL AREA, WHEN THE BRAKE WAS APPLIED. *JB *NLM

CONSUMER HEARD UNUSUAL NOISE FROM THE RIGHT REAR BRAKE AREA. NOISE WAS MOST NOTICEABLE WHEN BRAKES WERE APPLIED. *AK

WHILE TRAVELING ON THE HIGHWAY ABS BRAKING LIGHT APPEARED ON THE DASHBOAD. *AK

THE ABS LIGHT ILLUMINATED ON THE DASHBOARD. *JB

MY 2002 HONDA ODYSSEY MAKES A HORRIBLE NOISE IN THE REAR BRAKES. THIS HAPPENS WHENEVER I CHANGE DIRECTIONS FORWARD OR REVERSE. I CALLED EVERY HONDA DEALER IN SAN DIEGO AND WAS TOLD THIS IS NORMAL. AFTER THEY FIRST DENIED HAVING ANYONE ELSE COMPLAIN OF THIS. FINALLY A SERVICE ADVISOR ADMITTED THEY ARE TRYING TO FIX THE NON-EXISTING PROBLEM. I HAVE OWNED MANY HONDA'S AND NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM. THE SOLUTION AT THIS TIME IS TO HAVE THE BRAKE CALIPERS LUBED FOR THE SHORT TERM BUT THE NOISE WILL COME BACK. HONDA IS APPARENTLY TRYING TO REDESIGN THE SPRINGS ON THE CALIPERS SO UNTIL THEN HAPPY CLUNKING.

FRONT AND REAR BRAKES WERE REPLACED EVERY 8,000-10,000 MILES OF WEAR. DEALER REPLACED THE BRAKE PADS THREE TIMES, AND WAS UNABLE TO LOCATE THE PROBLEM WHICH WAS CAUSING THIS EXCESSIVE WEAR. *AK

IN COLD WEATHER THE BRAKE LINE FREEZES UP. THIS CAUSES THE BRAKES TO BE INOPERATIVE, AS A RESULT OF BRAKE FUEL NOT FOLLOWING FREELY. THE DEALERSHIP HAS BEEN CONTACTED. PLEASE PROVIDE MORE DETAILS. MR

SOMETIMES WHEN APPLYING BRAKES VEHICLE WILL NOT STOP. TOOK VEHICLE TO DEALER, AND THEY CAN'T DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM.*AK

THE CAR PULLS TO THE LEFT WHEN I APPLY THE BRAKES. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE TAKEN IT IN TO THE DEALER. THEY DENIED THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM UNTIL I WENT OUT ON A TEST DRIVE WITH THE TECHNICIAN.*AK

BRAKES MAKE ALOUD POPPING NOISE WHEN BACKING OR ROLLING FORWARD. POP IS FELT IN YOUR FEET. DEALER SAYS THIS IS NORMAL?*AK

ON 4/12/02 - {"NORMAL, NON-SEVERE BRAKING CONDITIONS"}: WAS NOT RAINING. DIDN'T DRIVE THROUGH WATER, MUD, OR OIL. WASN'T DRIVING OFF-ROAD, DOWN MOUNTAINS, OR DOWN ANY HILL. WASN'T RIDING BRAKE, OR DOING 1800 BRAKING MANEUVERS. --- DROVE 1 MILE, IN TOWN. PARKED FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES. DROVE 1/10 MILE, IN TOWN. --- APPLIED BRAKES NORMALLY. {"OTHER THAN RETURN SPRING, WITH NO RESISTANCE PEDAL WENT TO FLOOR WITH ZERO DECELERATION"}: {PEDAL WAS NOT HARD, WAS NOT SOFT. IT TRAVELED WITH NO RESISTANCE, NO PRESSURE, MOVED FREELY.} {PEDAL DIDN'T GO A LITTLE FARTHER THAN NORMAL. IT WENT COMPLETELY TO FLOOR.} {BRAKES DID NOT LOCK, DID NOT BRAKE SLOWLY. IT WAS ZERO DECELERATION, NO BRAKING, NO SLOWING.} --- RELEASED PEDAL. BRAKED HARD TO AVOID HITTING ANOTHER VEHICLE. CAME TO QUICK STOP. HAS NOT REOCCURRED.*AK