2012 Kia Forte ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,ENGINE

Engine started screeching out of nowhere, sounded like something fell through, there was no warning of any kind, car was running seemingly fine prior to this, car was jolting and not going anymore and something also sounded as if it had popped, it started knocking and caught fire and was smoking, breaking down on the side of the road and has been in another state since this occurred just sitting at a hotel because we had to get a rental car. We did call Kia in Georgia to have this issue rectified as we had recently bought this vehicle and were unaware there was a recall on it, however we did some checking and the previous owner also let us know there is a recall for engine fire. I do have the papers for that. Kia advised us they would not be responsible, but Panama City fl Kia where we live were willing to look at that car prior to this incident and take care of the recall, the previous owner never went but now the car has caught fire whilst we were driving in it 7.5 hours away from our house out of town with our children in the car. We had to pull over off of the interstate because the car was on fire and get out on the side of the road and all of had to evacuate. I do believe that if we had been going any faster, we may have even became fatalities because the car locked up. It turned off actually as I was turning to to the exit and just coasted far enough to not be hit in the middle of the road. It was terrifying and we had to move fast and smoke was starting to come through, it started dropping oil everywhere just spilling out lv its almost like the entire underneath of the motor just dropped or something. I’m not quite sure but it was sudden and it has been absolutely miserable.

Kia denied repair and replacement of components damaged by a known safety recall (Hydraulic Electronic Control Unit) on my 2012 Kia Forte Coupe, VIN# [XXX] . There was also a recall on the “Knock Sensor”, but I was unaware of the recall and paid for the repair out of pocket. Specifically, I was seeking repair or replacement of the starter and battery, as well as any other component that I wasn’t aware of, which was compromised as a direct result of the defective HECU system covered under the recall. They denied the repair because they said that the warranty was voided because the car had a salvage title, but the request to repair was not a warranty issue. The recall involves the HECU potentially causing electrical shorts and engine compartment fires, which can damage surrounding electrical components — including the battery and starter. These are not wear-and-tear items in this case, but parts affected by the consequences of a manufacturer-recognized safety defect. The internal electrical short circuit condition of the HECU fuse caused an overcurrent, which resulted in the wire from the solenoid cable of the starter burning and damaging the starter. As well as the wire of the negative battery terminal, which also resulted in the battery being damaged. I even left the battery and the starter on the floor of the car to show proof that these occurrences happened due to the defect of the HECU fused because when I purchased a new battery and starter the overcurrent of the HECU caused white smoke to appear and was about to catch fire and burn out the replacement parts as well. Kia has declined to perform these recall-related repairs, citing that the vehicle holds a salvage title, which was issued due to hail damage only. I respectfully contended that the cosmetic damage had no connection to the mechanical or electrical condition of the vehicle and in no way contributed to the failure of the battery or starter. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)

My vehicle is affected by NHTSA Recall Number 23V652000, I have taken my vehicle to Jim Ellis Kia of Kennesaw on several occasions, I believe 3 separate occasions to try and get this recall resolved. Each time I am told that the fix, a replacement fuse, is not being accepted by my vehicle. Each time they attempt to replace the fuse, the vehicle goes into anti-theft mode where the alarm goes off consistently. The dealership is unable to tell me why and states they can not complete the recall because of this. Initially, they tried to state the issue was that engine oil was seeping through into my engine harness and that I would need a new engine harness, sending me home with a quote for $3,000 to fix the issue. That same night I took my vehicle to an actual professional, who told me the dealership had no clue what they were talking about and that there was no oil in my engine harness. I returned to the dealership requesting that my vehicle only be looked at by the master technician, after the master tech reviewed the vehicle he agreed there was no oil in the engine harness and that that was a misdiagnosis. Absolutely absurd to think they can send a customer home with a $3k quote with no oversight before doing so. The master tech stated he could not figure out the incompatibility of my vehicle and the recall remedy, and stated I would have to pay $300 for them to do a full electrical review as a first step of troubleshooting. I can not believe that a massive corporation like Kia is sticking a customer with a MASSIVE fire hazard of a vehicle that is a result of their negligence and telling me that 'although we have a fix, for some reason the fix doesn't work for your car and you're going to have to pay us to figure out why.' This is absolutely unacceptable, I am a college student and while driving my only form of transportation, I constantly have to hope that I am not a victim of fatality at the hands of Kia.

I tried starting my vehicle and it wouldn't turn over so I pulled the key out of the ignition and the engine kept running. It stopped quickly, so I thought it was weird so I tried again and it made the same vacuum type noise and started smoking, all while the key was not in the ignition. It stopped smoking but I walked away for a sec and came back and the entire place was filled with smoke and the engine had then caught on fire. I was in a parking garage so many other vehicles could have been damaged, and people could have inhaled smoke and other things of that nature. I was also concerned that it would explode and cause even more damage. There was no other signs that this would happen, my vehicle had driven fine the morning of. The car is totaled of course and was towed off.

2012 Kia Forte Ex 2.0 I4 126k miles Daughter driving car to college, inside of vehicle filled with smoke, car engine stalled while on Hwy 430 in the middle of a construction zone. Barely made it to the shoulder of the road. I was close buy, I went and loaded up the car and took it home. Once home, I turned the ignition to on, to check for warning lights, None present! I looked under the car and could see oil! I looked all over the engine and discovered oil was coming from oil dipstick tube. I pulled the dipstick the rest of the way out and could see extreme metallic particles in oil. I drained what oil was left and the oil pan was full of fine metallic debris. I went ahead and changed the oil and started the car and the engine has an extreme knock, due to a common Kia failure. Faulty Rod main bearings. Contacted Kia and they told me to kick rocks. There’re corporate managers stated, “ I could care less if you ever bought a Kia and I could care less that the Rod Bearing failure is premature or a design flaw. We will not honor nor fix it.” This engine is in multiple Kia brands, they have recalled and replaced thousands of them. Since this engine is in a Forte, they stated my vin wasn’t in the selected range of defective engines. Even though, other models with the same engines are! Kia needs to stand behind and fix their faulty engines. My forte never had a “check engine “ light come on. The knock sensor never sent the car into limp mode and the vehicles pcm never acknowledged an issue to alert the driver of an impending disaster. Not only is my engine defective by Kia, they tampered with the vehicles software to where the knock sensor would never sense an impending problem, until the engine exploded in the consumer's face. Otherwise, the knock sensor would have alerted to an impending problem! Not one check engine light, not one ever came on! A computer scan also showed no stored codes, No active fault codes and No pending fault codes.

DRIVING HOME ON CHRISTMAS DAY FROM MY PARENTS ON THE FREEWAY, HEARD A NOISE IN ENGINE IMMEDIATELY PULLED OVER. NOTICED THAT THE CAR WAS SMOKING. THE CAR WOULDN'T TURN OFF AND MY HUSBAND GOT OUT AND UPON OPENING THE HOOD OF THE CAR NOTICED IT WAS IN FLAMES. HE IMMEDIATELY YELLED FOR US TO ALL GET OUT OF THE CAR. AS WE STARTED RUNNING THE ENTIRE CAR WENT UP IN FLAMES. THANKFULLY WE GOT OUT WHEN WE DID, HOWEVER ALL OF MY CHILDREN'S CHRISTMAS GIFTS, ALL OF OUR BELONGINGS WEREN'T SO LUCKY. MY KIDS ARE TRAUMATIZED AND IN SHOCK. THE CAR ONLY HAD 40K MILES ON IT. RECENTLY HAD THE 35K SERVICE BY KIA AND NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH IT. YET THEIR WARRANTY MEANT NOTHING. THEY WON'T EVEN INSPECT THE CAR YET THEY DETERMINED THAT IT ISN'T THEIR PROBLEM. HOW DOES A RELATIVELY NEW CAR JUST BURN UP ?!?! *TR

MY WIFE AND I WERE PASSING ANOTHER VEHICLE GOING ABOUT 75MPH ON A HIGHWAY IN SOUTHEAST KANSASWHEN MY CAR ESSENTIALLY TURNED OFF. LUCKILY THERE WAS A SHOULDER TO PULL ONTO. TRIED JUMPING IT WITH NO LUCK. WE HAD IT TOWED TO A NEARBY TOWN TO A BODY SHOP WHO KEPT IT OVER THE WEEKEND TO TRY AND REPLICATE THE ISSUE. THIS WAS A FRIDAY AND WE RETURNED THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY TO PICK UP THE CAR. BODYSHOP STATED THEY COULD NOT GET THE CAR TO REPICATE WHAT HAD HAPPEND AND NOTHING FLASHED ON THE COMPUTER. WE DROVE IT IN THE TOWN A LITTLE BIT WITH NO ISSUES AND PROCEEDED HOME. WE WERE OUT OF THE TOWN ABOUT 10 MINUTES WHEN WE HEARD A SMALL KNOCKING THAT CONTINUED TO GET WORSE. WE PULLED OVER. WE CONTINUED DOWN THE ROAD TO THE NEXT TOWN WHICH WAS ABOUT 5 MILES AWAY TO A BODY SHOP. WE JUST GOT INTO TOWN WHEN THE CAR DIED AGAIN AS IF I TURNED THE CAR OFF. I MUSCLED THE CAR TO A PARKING LOT. TRIED TURNING THE CAR ON AGAIN AND ENGINE STARTED SMOKING. GOT IT TOWED BACK HOME TO A LOCAL BODY SHOP WHO LOOKED AT IT THE NEXT DAY TO INFORM ME I NEEDED A NEW ENGINE, MAIN WIRE HARNESS, AND STARTER. I CONTACTED KIA, EVENTHOUGH I WAS ONLY 11K MILES OVER WARRANTY, TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE. GOT IT TOWED TO A LOCAL KIA DEALERSHIP WHO LOOKED IT OVER AND FOUND LOTS A METAL IN THE OIL. THEY PUT A CLAIM IN WITH KIA WHICH THEY DENIED. I CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE WHO THEN SENT IT TO THE DISTRICT MANAGER AND HE DENIED ANY HELP. IT THEN GOT ESCALATED TO A HIGHER DEPARTMENT AND THEY DENIED ANY HELP EITHER. PRIOR TO THIS I HAD NO ISSUES OR PROBLEMS WITH THE CAR. DURING THE TIME I HAD MY CAR I HAD PROPER OIL CHANGES AND MAINTENANCE. THE CAR IS ONLY 5 YEARS OLD WITH ONLY 71,462 MILES ON IT AND NOW NEEDS A WHOLE NEW ENGINE. THANKFULLY THE TIMES IT STALLED, WHICH NO WARNING LIGHT EVER CAME ON NOR WAS THERE EVER A NOISE OF ANY KIND INDICATING ANYTING WAS WRONG, MY WIFE AND I WERE NOT IN A CRASH.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2012 KIA FORTE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE CAUGHT FIRE AS HE WALKED OUTSIDE. THE CONTACT NOTICED THAT THE WINDOWS WERE BLACK FROM THE RESIDUE OF THE FIRE. THE VEHICLE WAS DESTROYED AND TOWED. A POLICE REPORT WAS NOT FILED. THE FIRE EXTINGUISHED ITSELF BEFORE THE FIREFIGHTERS WERE CALLED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 54,000.