2006 Nissan Pathfinder POWER TRAIN,ENGINE
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Transmission oil cooler line in radiator broke causing coolant and transmission oil to mix and car is not driveable and needs $3,000 repairs
RADIATOR FAILED CAUSING LEAK OF RADIATOR FLUID INTO TRANSMISSION CAUSING VEHICLE TO BE TOWED TO AUTO SHOP. VEHICLE WAS IN MOTION ON HIGHWAY AND THEN WOULD ALL OF THE SUDDEN NO LONGER ACCELERATE. MECHANICS, (GOT 3 ESTIMATES) ALL SAID SAME THING; THAT THIS WAS A PROBLEM WITH THESE PATHFINDERS. MY COST IS ABOUT 6,500. I HAD JUST BOUGHT THIS VEHICLE FOR 8,500 ABOUT 3 WEEKS PRIOR.
ALL 4 OF MY CATALYTIC CONVERTERS HAVE HAD TO BE REPLACED (OR NEED TO BE REPLACED - I'VE ALREADY REPLACED BANK 1. NOW BANK 2 IS BAD) IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS OR SO AND NOW MY RADIATOR IS LEAKING INTO MY TRANSMISSION. I DISCOVERED THERE WAS A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT ON THE RADIATOR/TRANSMISSION ISSUE, BUT I'M OUTSIDE OF THE WARRANTY PERIOD. WITH RESPECT TO THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, I OCCASIONALLY SMELL EXHAUST, BUT THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHTS STAY ON. WITH THE TRANSMISSION, IT STARTED OUT AS GEAR SLIPPING, CAUSING ROUGH DRIVING (WHICH THE DEALERSHIP TOLD ME WAS THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER). THEN, IT STARTED RUNNING SLOW OUT OF FIRST GEAR AND HARD SHIFTING. I TOOK IT TO A TRANSMISSION PLACE THAT PULLED TRANSMISSION CODES AND WHEN THEY DROPPED THE PAN, THE FLUID LOOKED LIKE A MILKSHAKE. THE ROUGH DRIVING/GEARS SLIPPING DIDN'T MATTER - IT COULD BE ON THE HIGHWAY OR IN THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE IN 2018 THAT I HAD THE ISSUE, BUT I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE FOR A YEAR.
I WAS DRIVING ON AN INTERSTATE AT NORMAL HIGHWAY SPEED WHEN THE CAR SHUDDERED AS IF GOING OVER ROUGH PAVEMENT. THE ENGINE STARTED RACING, BUT THE CAR GRADUALLY LOST FORWARD PROPULSION. I STEERED TO THE EMERGENCY LANE AND STOPPED. AFTER A MINUTE, THE CAR REGAINED JUST ENOUGH FORWARD MOTION TO GET ME TO THE NEXT EXIT, ACROSS AN INTERSECTION (WHERE THE LIGHT JUST HAPPENED TO BE GREEN, THANK GOODNESS), AND INTO THE PARKING LOT OF A LARGE GROCERY STORE BEFORE THE VEHICLE LOST ALL PROPULSION. WE PUSHED THE CAR THE LAST FEW FEET INTO A PARKING SPOT. IT WAS TOWED TO A NISSAN DEALERSHIP. I WAS TOLD THE NEXT DAY THAT THE TRANSMISSION WARMER HAD FAILED, ALLOWING RADIATOR COOLANT TO LEAK INTO THE TRANSMISSION, WHICH RUINED THE TRANSMISSION. THE REPAIR WOULD COST $6000. I CANNOT PUT ANOTHER $6000 INTO A 13-YEAR-OLD VEHICLE, EVEN THOUGH I'VE ONLY HAD IT FOR FIVE MONTHS, SO NOW I'VE LOST THE MONEY I PUT INTO IT AND WILL HAVE TO START OVER WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE.
TRANSMISSION IS FAILING QUICKLY. I HAD TO REPLACE MY RADIATOR A FEW MONTHS AGO BECAUSE IT CRACKED. THAT EVENT LEFT MY WIFE AND CHILDREN STRANDED ON THE INTERSTATE.
MY PROBLEM IS WITH THE RADIATOR AND TRANSMISSION FLUID CONTAMINATION.. SOME HOSES INSIDE THE RADIATOR THAT CARRIES TRANSMISSION FLUID AND COOLANT CRACKED AND CONTAMINATED BOTH THE RADIATOR AND TRANSMISSION. THIS PROBLEM HAS CAUSED MY VEHICLE TO LOCK INTO 4 WHEEL DRIVE AND CONTAMINATED BOTH MY RADIATOR AND TRANSMISSION THIS PROBLEM WILL NEED TO BE REPAIRED BEFORE THE VEHICLE CAN BE DRIVEN. IT WILL BE A COSTLY REPAIR THAT SHOULD BE COVERED BY NISSAN ON A RECALL ACCORDING TO ALL THE COMPLAINTS I HAVE READ ABOUT.
THE RADIATOR WAS CRACKED WHERE THE TRANSMISSION FLUID IS AND IT MIXED WITH THE ANTIFREEZE WHICH CAUSED BOTH THE RADIATOR AND THE TRANSMISSION TO HAVE TO BE REPLACED. THE ENGINE WAS ON AND VEHICLE WAS STATIONARY WHEN WE NOTICED THE TEMPERATURE INCREASED GREATLY AND RAPIDLY UNTIL IT MAXED OUT. THE VEHICLE WAS LEAKING A MIX OF ANTIFREEZE AND TRANSMISSION FLUID. WE REPLACED THE RADIATOR BUT THE DAMAGE WAS DONE ALREADY TO THE TRANSMISSION. THE VEHICLE WAS IN MOTION WHEN THE TRANSMISSION FAILED.
WE HAVE A 2006 NISSAN PATHFINDER THAT HAS TRANSMISSION FAILURE DUE TO A DEFECTIVE RADIATOR. THIS IS A KNOWN DEFECT THAT NISSAN SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR. WE FOLLOWED ALL RECOMMENDED MAINTENANCE, MOST OF WHICH WAS AT A NISSAN DEALERSHIP. THE DEALERSHIP WAS NEGLIGENT IN ITS INSPECTION AND REPAIR OF OUR VEHICLE. WHEN WE BEGAN TO EXPERIENCE TRANSMISSION FAILURE AND HAD BOTH TRANSMISSION AND COOLANT CONTAMINATION, THEY FAILED TO DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM. TWO NISSAN DEALERSHIP INSPECTIONS IN MAY 2016 OUTLINED THAT ALL WAS WELL WITH OUR VEHICLE, EVEN AFTER WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS NO TRANSMISSION FLUID ON OUR DIPSTICK, AND IT DID NOT APPEAR THAT THE BOLT TO CHECK THE FLUID HAD NOT BEEN RECENTLY REMOVED. OUR FAMILY'S SAFETY WAS PUT AT RISK DRIVING THIS VEHICLE FOR OVER A MONTH, WHILE IT WAS EXPERIENCING TRANSMISSION FAILURE AND RISKED ENGINE FAILURE DUE TO HEAVILY CONTAMINATED COOLANT. AFTER A FEW WEEKS OF SYMPTOMS, WE LOOKED ONLINE AND WERE SHOCKED TO SEE THE WIDESPREAD MANUFACTURING DEFECT THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED. WE TOOK OUR TRUCK TO AN INDEPENDENT SHOP WHO DIAGNOSED THE PROBLEM. THE NISSAN WARRANTY WAS EXTENDED TO 10 YEARS OR 160,000 KILOMETERS FOR POSSIBLE RADIATOR ASSEMBLY FAILURE. ALTHOUGH OUR VEHICLE FELL WITHIN THE 10 YEAR TIME FRAME, WE WERE OUTSIDE THE KILOMETER RANGE BY 40,000 KILOMETERS. NISSAN CANADA AND CROWN NISSAN REFUSED TO EXTEND THE WARRANTY TO US. WE FEEL THE 160,000 KM IS FAR TOO LOW FOR A 10 YEAR WARRANTY. A RECENT DODGE WARRANTY EXTENSION WAS 10 YRS, 240,000 KM. NISSAN PUT US IN AN UNSAFE SITUATION, WHERE THEY FAILED TO DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM AND WE WERE OUT DRIVING FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, SOME OF WHICH INVOLVED TOWING OUR FAMILY CAMPER ON THE HIGHWAYS. NISSAN HAS BEEN NEGLIGENT ON MANY LEVELS AND A RECALL SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO THESE FAULTY RADIATORS.
COOLANT LEAKED INTO TRANSMISSION, DESTROYING THE TRANSMISSION, AND RENDERING VEHICLE USELESS WITHOUT THOUSANDS IN REPAIRS
I HAVE A 2006 NISSAN PATHFINDER WITH 91,450 MILES. I NOTICE A SLIGHT SLIP IN THE TRANSMISSION ON THE WAY TO WORK. I WORK AT A AUTO REPAIR SHOP. THEY TOOK IT FOR A TEST DRIVE AND FOUND NOTHING. APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS LATER, IT REALLY STARTED TO SLIP TO THE POINT I HAD TO PULL OVER, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT SHIFTING CORRECTLY. WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT IN TO THE SHOP AGAIN IT DID NOTHING. I CALLED THE LOCAL NISSAN DEALER IN STROUDSBURG PA AND WAS TOLD THERE WAS A "SILENT RECALL" AND TO CHECK THE FLUID IF IT WAS A MILKY COLOR, PRETTY MUCH I WAS GOING TO BE WITHOUT A CAR. I ALWAYS TOOK CARE OF MY CAR AND FOR THIS TO HAPPEN WAS A REAL BLOW. THE DEALERSHIP TOLD ME PRETTY MUCH THE REPAIR EXCEEDS THE VALUE OF THE VEHICLE. I DID CHECK THE VALUE OF MY CAR WAS APPROXIMATELY $6-7000 FOR THE SHAPE THAT IT WAS IN. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO LOSE ON A VEHICLE. ALSO, THE HAZARD OF NOT SHIFTING PROPERLY COULD HAVE CAUSED AN ACCIDENT, I HAD TO PULL OFF THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY UNTIL I COULD GET IT TO SHIFT AND THIS KEPT REPEATING IT SELF OVER AND OVER. NISSAN HAD A CLASS ACTION SETTLEMENT, WHICH WHEN I CALLED NISSAN DIRECTLY THEY SAID IT DID NOT INCLUDE MY VIN NUMBER. I BELIEVE NISSAN KNEW THIS WAS A DEFECT AND ONLY IF YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT IT DID YOU GET ATTENTION FROM THE COMPANY. I HAD AN ADDRESS CHANGE SO I DO NOT KNOW IF I RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION ON THIS TYPE OF ISSUE. I WAS THE ONLY OWNER OF THIS VEHICLE AND BELIEVED THAT NISSAN SHOULD MAKE GOOD FOR THE REPAIRS IT WILL COST.
RADIATOR CRACKED LEAKING COOLANT INTO THE TRANSMISSION THAT IS IMPACTING THE ABILITY FOR TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE TO FUNCTION PROPERLY. NOW, WHILE DRIVING, THE CAR RANDOMLY STALLS AND LOSES ALL POWER. WHILE ON THE HIGHWAY, IT HAS BECOME NECESSARY TO RESTART THE CAR WHILE ROLLING IN NEUTRAL TO AVOID HAVING TO SWITCH LANES INTO FASTER MOVING CARS. I'VE BEEN INFORMED BY NISSAN THAT IT'S A COMMON PROBLEM AND AN $8000 REPAIR TO REPLACE THE RADIATOR, TRANSMISSION, TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE, AND FLUSH EVERYTHING OUT.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2006 NISSAN PATHFINDER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHEN HE TOOK HIS VEHICLE TO THE MECHANIC FOR MAINTENANCE, THE MECHANIC STATED THAT THE VEHICLE COOLANT WAS ABNORMAL. AS A RESULT, IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TRANSMISSION FLUID AND COOLANT HAD MIXED. THE RADIATOR AND TRANSMISSION NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 115,000. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
RADITOR LEAKS COOLANT IN TRANSMITTION NOW MY TRANSMITTION IS NOT WORKING AND THE COOLANT HAS TRANSMITTON FLUIDS IN IT
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2006 NISSAN PATHFINDER. WHILE THE GEAR LEVER WAS IN REVERSE, THE TRANSMISSION FAILED TO OPERATE. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE RADIATOR CONNECTOR HOSE LEAKED FLUID INTO THE TRANSMISSION. THE CONTAMINATION CAUSED INTERNAL DAMAGE TO THE TRANSMISSION. THE RADIATOR AND TRANSMISSION WERE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 85,000. CONSUMER STATED WHILE DRIVING UP A HILL SHE ACCELERATION AND COULD NOT MAKE IT UP THE HILL AND MADE IT TO HER JOB. CONSUMER ATTEMPTED TO PUT THE VEHICLE IN REVERSE AND WOULD NOT GO IN REVERSE. CAR WAS TOWED, AAMACO DIAGNOSIS WAS COOLANT HAD LEAKED INTO THE TRANSMISSION CAUSING TRANSMISSION TO FAIL. UPDATED 6/13/18*JB
MY VEHICLE HAD PROBLEMS IN 2011 WHEN A "WARRANTY NOTICE" WAS SENT REGARDING A RADIATOR PROBLEM. I TOOK THE CAR IN AND THEY FOUND THAT IT WAS A TIMING BELT AND DID NOT CHANGE MY RADIATOR WHILE IT WAS UNDER THE EXTENDED WARRANTY AND HAD APPROXIMATEY 70,000 MILES. I NOW HAVE 160,000 MILES AND MY CAR IS ACTING UP AGAIN AND THE DEALERSHIP ADVISED ME THE RADIATOR IS CRACKED AND LEAKING COOLANT INTO THE TRANSMISSION SO I NEED BOTH REPAIRED OR MY CAR WILL GET WORSE AND CAN CAUSE AN ACCIDENT. TO ME IT APPEARS THAT THIS DEFECT WITH THE CAR WAS FROM THE INCEPTION AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECALLED BECAUSE IT WAS BOUND TO FAIL AND IT SHOULD BE FIXED AT NISSAN'S COST. MY VEHICLE IS STILL PRETTY GOOD LOOKING BUT I FEEL IT IS ONLY A SHELL THAT I AM DRIVING BECAUSE OF THE INTERIOR RADIATOR FLAW. THEY INDICATE THAT SINCE NO RECALLS WERE MADE I HAVE TO PAY THE TOTAL OUT OF POCKET. I MISSED THE LAWSUIT IN 2013 BUT AM WILLING TO FILE ANOTHER CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT IF A LAWYER IS WILLING TO ACCEPT IT. THE VEHICLE WAS SHAKING WHEN I WAS DRIVING IT ON THE FREEWAY MAINLY AND IT FELT LIKE IT WAS NOT IN GEAR AND PULLING. THESE WERE ALSO MY CONCERNS IN 2011 WHEN I TOOK IT IN TO BE REPAIRED AND FIXED, BUT THEY SAID I HAD NO PROBLEMS. WELL I DO NOW AND I WOULDN'T HAVE IF THEY HAD FIXED THE DEFECTIVE RADIATOR.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2006 NISSAN PATHFINDER. WHILE DRIVING AT AN UNKNOWN SPEED, THE VEHICLE STALLED WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TRANSMISSION FAILED DUE TO COOLANT CONTAMINATION. AS A RESULT, THE TRANSMISSION, RADIATOR, AND THERMOSTAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 191,270.
CAR SHAKES VIOLENTLY WHEN ACCELERATING AND JERKS. HAVE BEEN TOLD I PROBABLY HAVE A CRACK IN RAIDIATOR AND FLUIDS LEAKED IN TRANSMISSION WILL BE THOUSANDS TO FIX. AFTER LOOKING ON INTERNET. I SEE MANY PEOPLE WITH PROBLEM AND NISSAN IS NOT COVERING COSTS.
WHILE DRIVING ON INTERSTATE 25 IN SOUTH DENVER, MY PATHFINDER BEGAN TO SPUTTER AND STALL. THE ENGINE STARTED TO OVERHEAT AS I PULLED INTO A SERVICE STATION ABOUT TWO MILES AWAY. I HAD IT TOWED TO CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTO IN PARKER COLORADO. A RADIATOR PART BLEW, THE ENGINE OVERHEATED AND WAS DESTROYED. THE STEAM FROM THE PLASTIC RADIATOR PART ALSO DAMAGED THE MAIN COMPUTER. IT WAS CLOSE TO $10,000 FOR ALL REPAIRS RELATED TO THE RADIATOR PART FAILURE. APPROXIMATELY 8,000 MILES LATER, MY DAUGHTER AND I WERE DRIVING ON I-70 NEAR THE VAIL, COLORADO EXIT, AND THE PATHFINDER STARTED TO JERK VIOLENTLY ON THE HIGHWAY GOING 65MPH. I WAS ABLE TO PULL OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. SCARY EXPERIENCE FOR US BOTH. THIS HAPPENED TODAY, 03/24/2016. SMOKE WAS COMING FROM UNDER THE CAR. I HAD IT TOWED TO AVON AUTO IN AVON COLORADO. THEY SAID THE TRANSMISSION IS DAMAGED, BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE TIME TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER. PLEASE CALL OR EMAIL ME WITH FURTHER QUESTIONS. [XXX] OR [XXX]. INFORMATION Redacted PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6).
VEHICLE WOULD HESITATE BADLY WHILE DRIVING AND ALMOST CAUSED AN ACCIDENT. WHEN TAKEN TO A MECHANIC TO FIX ISSUE, WE FOUND THAT THE TRANSMISSION FLUID HAD TURNED PINK. THE TECHNICIAN STATED THAT AT FLUID AND COOLANT HAD MIXED TOGETHER. WE HAD TO HAVE THE TRANSMISSION AND THE RADIATOR REPLACED.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2006 NISSAN PATHFINDER. WHILE DRIVING 5 MPH, THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED BUT THE VEHICLE HESITATED AND JERKED BEFORE MOVING FORWARD. THE FAILURE RECURRED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TRANSMISSION AND THE RADIATOR NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 62,000.
PURCHASED VEHICLE FROM CAR LOT FEB. 28, 2015. DROVE THIS VEHICLE 5 TIMES AND THE COOLANT LEAKED. FLUSHED SYSTEM NOTICE THERE WAS STOP LEAK IN RADIATOR. NOW MY TRANSMISSION SLIPS AND TRUCK SHAKES DURING ACCELERATION. THIS WAS A PREVIOUS ISSUE BEFORE I BOUGHT THE VEHICLE BECAUSE THE SHAKING OCCURRED WHEN DRIVING HOME. I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST THE TIRES NEEDING TO BE BALANCED, BUT AFTER RESEARCH I KNOW THAT IT WAS FROM THE COOLANT PREVIOUSLY LEAKING INTO THE TRANSMISSION, AND NOW I AM LEFT TO DEAL WITH IT. *TR
THE TRANSMISSION STARTED TO SLIP, WHICH NEEDED TO BE TAKEN OUT OF OVERDRIVE FROM TIME TO TIME. AFTER A FEW MONTHS THE TRANSMISSION GAVE OUT COMPLETELY ON THE HIGHWAY. IT WILL REV UP, BUT WILL NOT DRIVE. APPARENTLY THEY ARE FAMOUS FOR THE GASKET LEAKING ENGINE COOLANT WITH THE OIL. THEY SHOULD HAVE ALL BEEN RECALLED. *TR
I BACKED OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY ONTO THE MAIN ROAD AND WENT TO PUT THE VEHICLE INTO DRIVE AND IT WOULD NOT GO INTO DRIVE. WHEN I GOT IT TO THE REPAIR SHOP THEY SAID THAT THE RADIATOR HAD LEAKED INTO THE TRANSMISSION AND CAUSED IT TO RUIN THE TRANSMISSION.
WHILE IN MOTION IN A VERY BUSY TRAFFIC, THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY STARTED STALLING PROMPTING MY PUMPING OF THE GAS PEDAL IN PANIC, AS WELL AS DEPLOYMENT OF THE HAZARD LIGHT. THE ENERGY GENERATED FROM THE ENGINE, WHILE PUMPING THE GAS PEDAL, IS NOT BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE TRANSMISSION. EVENTUALLY THE VEHICLE ROLLS TO A COMPLETE STOP WITH THE ENGINE DEAD IN THE BUSY TRAFFIC, EFFECTIVELY PUTTING ME IN HARMS WAY. I TURNED THE IGNITION AND THE ENGINE STARTED, AFTER ABOUT A QUARTER MILE IT WILL STALL AND QUIT AGAIN. THIS PROCESS REPEATED SEVERAL TIMES AND EVENTUALLY THE VEHICLE QUIT FOR GOOD. IT WILL NOT START AGAIN. I HAD A WRECKER TOW THE VEHICLE TO THE NISSAN DEALERSHIP WHERE THE SERVICE AGENT TOLD ME, APPROXIMATELY 24 HOURS LATER, THAT THE PROBLEM RESULTED FROM A CRACKED RADIATOR THAT LEAKED ANTIFREEZE INTO THE TRANSMISSION AND SUBSEQUENTLY DAMAGING OR DESTROYING THE TRANSMISSION. THE AGENT TOLD ME THAT IT WILL COST SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS SINCE IT WILL ENTAIL INSTALLING NEW RADIATOR AND TRANSMISSION. *TR
I WAS DRIVING DOWN A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND CAME TO A STOP LIGHT. ONCE THE LIGHT TURNED GREEN I EASED OFF THE BRAKES AND PUSH THE GAS. IT JERKED AND IT MOVED VERY SLOWLY MAKING A LOUD NOISE. I STARTED SMELLING SOMETHING BURNING. HAD TO GET IT TOWED TO A SHOP AND THE MECHANIC CALLED ME YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND TOLD ME THE TRANSMISSION WAS GONE. NOW I'M LOOKING TO HAVE TO PAY $3000 FOR A TRANSMISSION. *TR
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The 2006 Nissan Pathfinder has 84 POWER TRAIN,ENGINE complaints on file. Review the timeline above for detailed owner experiences.