2001 Honda Accord Structure

The contact owns a 2001 Honda Accord. The contact stated that after the vehicle was inspected, he was informed by the technician that the vehicle had failed due to the subframe had rusted and was corroded and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The dealer nor the manufacture were notified of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 96,299.

THE PASSENGER SIDE REAR FRONT ENGINE SUPPORT IS RUSTING AWAY DUE TO A AC LEAK MY CAR WAS BOUGHT LAST YEAR EVERYTHING WAS FINE DUE TO HOT SUMMERS AND SALTY WET WINTERS WHEN THIS SUMMER CAME MY CARS FRAME WHERE THE FRONT SUPPORT MEATS THE BACK END AND WHERE THE ENGINE MOUNT IS COMPLETELY RUSTED AWAY DUES TO THE YEARS OF THE AC LEAKING DIRECTLY ONTO THE FRAME WHEN I BOUGHT THE CAR THE INFO WAS NOT DISCLOSED TO ME THAT HONDA WITH THE YEARS 98-02 HAD THIS PROBLEM MY FRAME HAS NOW COMPLETELY BROKEN AND IS HANGING BY A THREAD THIS I'D A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION AS IF I'M DRIVING AND THE FRAME BREAKS IT COULD CAUSE SERIOUSLY INJURY OR DEATH I NOTICED THE NOISE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND WHEN INSPECTION THE VEHICLE AND DOING SOME RESEARCH I FOUND THAT THIS IS A VERY COMMON THING AND DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE TO FIX THE MISTAKE HONDA MADE HAVING A LEAK THAT DROPS DIRECTLY ONTO THE FRAME AFTER 19 YEARS OF THAT HAPPENING THE CAR IS FINALLY BREAKING DOWN BECAUSE OF IT

SUBFRAME WILL NOT PASS INSPECTION DEW TO RUST ON THE PASSENGER SIDE HAS LARGE HOLES GOING THROUGH IT

SUBFRAME COMPLETELY RUSTED THROUGH UNDERNEATH AIR CONDITION. CAR 18 YEARS OLD BUT HAS ALWAYS BEEN KEPT IN THE GARAGE. ALSO IT HAS ONLY 70580 MILES AND HAS BEEN IN FLORIDA FOR A FEW YEARS, AND USED ONLY 3 MOS. PER YEAR.

TAKATA RECALL I AM WRITING YOU BECAUSE I BROUGHT A CAR A LITTLE UNDER A YEAR AGO. I WAS DRIVING IT 2 WEEKS AGO AND MY BREAKS GAVE OUT IT WAS MY BREAK LINE. I GOT THE CAR LOOKED AT AND MY FRAME IS RUSTED AND CAVED IN ON MY BREAK LINE. I CALLED THE DEALER THE SAME DAY NOMORE THEN 30MIN AFTER IT HAPPEN. THE FATHER WAS NOT THERE WHICH IS THE MAN WHO SOLD ME THE CAR AT NEHRE SERVICE. HE WAS ON VACATION HE CAME HOME 5/16/18 WHICH IS 2WEEKS AND A DAY OF IT HAPPENING. HE TOLD ME THAT I NEED TO CALL THE HONDA FACTORY THERE WAS NOTHING HE COULD DO FOR ME. I'M WRITING THIS COMPLAINT BECAUSE BY LAW YOU CAN NOT SALE A CAR WITH A RUSTED, DAMAGED OR BRUISED FRAME. HE REFUSED TO LATE ME TRADE IN WHEN MY PAYMENTS WAS DONE WHICH WAS BACK IN SEPTEMBER. I'M TO THE POINT WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. PLEASE HELP ME BECAUSE I PUT 3000 DOLLARS INTO THIS CAR AT THIS MAN SHOP. PLEASE GET BACK TO ME, I ALMOST LOST MY LIFE BECAUSE OF THIS. [XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6).' *PM

PAINT PEELING AND FLAKING

FRONT ENGINE CRADLE (PASSENGER SIDE) RUSTED THROUGH, FAILED STATE INSPECTION. AC HAD NOT BEEN USED FOR 5-6 YEARS, JUST FIXED BEFORE THIS SUMMER. ACCORDING TO OTHER SIMILAR COMPLAINS, SEEMS IT WAS DUE TO MISPLACEMENT OF AC DRAIN (BY DESIGN) WHICH DRIPS WATER TO THE AFFECTED AREA. MILEAGE 108800.

WHILE CHANGING THE FRONT BRAKES ON MY CAR I NOTICED THE RIGHT REAR CORNER OF MY SUBFRAME WAS HEAVILY RUSTED. UPON CLOSER INSPECTION THE SUBFRAME HAS RUSTED THROUGH IN SEVERAL SPOTS. DIRECTLY BELOW THE AIR CONDITIONING DRAIN TUBE I WAS ABLE TO PUT A FINGER THROUGH THE METAL WITH LITTLE TO NO PRESSURE. THE LOCATION OF THIS DRAIN TUBE ALLOWS WATER TO DRIP DIRECTLY ONTO THE SUBFRAME. THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SUBFRAME HAS BARELY ANY RUST ON IT AT ALL. SEARCHING THROUGH THE INTERNET I FOUND MANY REPORTS AND STORIES FROM OWNERS OF THE 1998 TO 2002 HONDA ACCORDS WITH THE SAME ISSUE. A WALK THROUGH A LOCAL JUNKYARD YESTERDAY PROVIDES FURTHER PROOF THAT THIS IS A DESIGN FLAW AND HONDA NEEDS TO RECTIFY THIS ISSUE PROMPTLY.

MY MECHANIC SAID THAT THE FRAME IS ROTTED OUT UNDER THE PASSENGER SIDE WHEEL WELL MAKING THE VEHICLE UNSAFE TO DRIVE. THE DRIVERS SIDE IS FINE. THE AIR CONDITIONING HOSE DRIPS AT THE SPOT THAT IS RUSTED OUT. THIS IS A MAJOR DESIGN FLAW AND SHOULD BE CORRECTED.

TOOK MY VEHICLE IN FOR INSPECTION. MECHANIC HAS INFORMED ME THAT THE SUBFRAME ON THE PASSENGER SIDE HAS COMPLETELY RUSTED OUT AND IS DUE FOR IMMEDIATE FAILURE. UPON RESEARCHING THE SUBFRAME FOR THE 6TH GENERATION HONDA ACCORD, MULTIPLE ARTICLES, BLOGS, AND EVEN A NEWS VIDEO REPORT BY WEWS NEWS CHANNEL 5, POINT TO A/C DRAIN HOSE AS THE ISSUE CAUSING PREMATURE WEAR. THE DRIVER'S SIDE SUBFRAME IS SIGNIFICANTLY IN MUCH BETTER CONDITION VS THE PASSENGER SIDE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2001 HONDA ACCORD. WHILE HAVING MAINTENANCE PERFORMED ON THE VEHICLE, THE TECHNICIAN DISCOVERED THAT THE SUBFRAME WAS COMPLETELY CORRODED. THE VEHICLE WAS DEEMED UNSAFE TO DRIVE AND THE SUBFRAME NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 120,000.

SUBFRAME RUST CAUSED BY MISPOSITIONED A/C DRAIN PIPE DROPPED MY CAR OFF FOR HER 200K TUNE IN NH. THE MECHANIC SAID THE SUBFRAME UNDERNEATH THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT WAS SHOT. I DEBATED WHETHER TO SPEND $1100 FOR A USED SUBFRAME AND LABOR. DECIDED IT WAS A GAMBLE, BUT PROBABLY WORTH IT. DROPPED IT OFF TWO DAYS LATER AND HE SHOWED ME WHERE. I GRABBED THE FRAME AND IT JUST CRUMBLED. WITH THE NEW SUBFRAME AND TUNE, SHE RUNS LIKE NEW, EVEN AT 200K. LATER I DID MORE RESEARCH LATER AND FOUND THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE SAME ISSUE. I GOT THE CAR UP ON A FRIEND'S LIFT AND FOUND THE A/C DRAIN HOSE. IT WAS HIGH UP IN THE CAR AND REALLY SHORT! IT POINTED DIRECTLY AT THE SUBFRAME. I SIMPLY REPLACED THE HOSE, CLAMPED IT ON, THEN TIED THE END TO A THINGY FURTHER DOWN, SO THAT THE OPENING POINTED AT THE GROUND. LIKE $2 IN PARTS AND 20 MINUTES, AND I'M AN AMATEUR. I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT HONDA NEVER OFFICIALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THIS DESIGN DEFECT. I GET THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR SUBFRAME REPLACEMENTS - THEY'RE A BUSINESS, YADDA YADDA. BUT IT'S SUCH A BASIC OVERSIGHT WITH AN EASY SOLUTION. JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DILIGENCE ON THEIR PART WOULD HAVE SAVED ME OVER A THOUSAND BUCKS. SUBFRAME RUST IS A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE. THEY DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED FOR SUCH LAZINESS AND NEGLIGENCE. TO NIP THIS IN THE BUD: YES, I LIVE IN NEW ENGLAND. THERE'S A LOT OF SALT ON THE ROADS, BUT I WASH THE UNDERCARRIAGE REGULARLY. AND IF IT WERE GENERAL WEAR-N-TEAR, THE ENTIRE SUBFRAME WOULD HAVE HAD SIMILAR LEVELS OF DAMAGE. HOWEVER, THE ROT WAS LOCALIZED DIRECTLY UNDER THE A/C DRAIN HOSE. ALSO, THE DEALERSHIP SAID NOTHING ABOUT SUBFRAME RUST WHEN I BROUGHT THE CAR IN FOR THE AIRBAG RECALL. SOME 100 POINT INSPECTION, HUH?

MY 18 YEAR OLD SON BOUGHT A 2001 HONDA ACCORD AFTER SAVING HIS MONEY. ONE YEAR LATER WHILE HAVING A OIL CHANGE THE MECHANIC NOTICED THE FRONT PASSENGER SIDE OF FRONT SUBFRAME WAS ROTTED SO BAD A SECTION WAS MISSING. TERRIBLE THAT HONDA WILL DO NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM THAT SEEMS TO AFFECT MANY ACCORDS. I ENCOURAGED HIM TO BUY A HONDA OR TOYOTA FOR THEIR RELIABILITY, AT LEAST TOYOTA DID A RECALL ON THEIR FRAMES.

SUBFRAME RUSTED, PASSENGER SIDE. NOT SURE HOW LONG I DROVE THIS UNSAFE VEHICLE WITH THE BAD FRAME.

PASSENGER SIDE FRONT SUBFRAME RUSTING OUT FROM POOR DESIGN WHICH HAS AIR CONDITIONING CONDENSATE DRIPPING ON TO THIS AREA OF THE SUBFRAME. THE DRIVERS SIDE DOES NOT SHOW ANY CORROSION. I FEAR COMPLETE FAILURE OF THE SUBFRAME AND WILL EITHER HAVE TO REPLACE IT OR JUNK THE VEHICLE. ALL BECAUSE OF A POOR DESIGN ISSUE. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2001 HONDA ACCORD. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE SUBFRAME ON THE PASSENGER SIDE OF THE VEHICLE WAS RUSTED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHO STATED THAT THE SUBFRAME NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 85,000.

PAINT PEELING ON TOP WHEN I PURCHASED IN 2012 JUST A LITTLE BIT THE SIZE OF A SMALL PIECE OF FRUIT. IN 2 1/2 YRS THE WHOLE TOP HAS PEELED, THE TOP OF DRIVER SIDE FRONT AND BACK DOOR AND THE TRUNK IS ALSO STARTING ABOUT 40% NOW. CAR IS 01 BUT I SEE OTHER MAKES AND MODELS THAT ARE THAT AGE AND OLDER THAT LOOK TEN TIMES BETTER. I SEE HONDA ACCORDS EVERYWHERE WITH THE SAME PROBLEM , ESPECIALLY THE SAME COLOR AS MINE WHICH IS DARK GREEN. *TR

THE CLEAR COAT IS PEELING. STARTED ON THE ROOF. THEN THE TRUNK NOW IT APPEARS THE HOOD MAY BE STARTING. I KEPT THIS CAR WELL MAINTAINED AND THERE WAS NO GOOD REASON FOR THE CLEAR COAT TO START TO PEEL. HONDA GAVE ME $500 IN "LOYALTY CASH". I HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEM ON NUMEROUS OTHER HONDA ACCORDS DATING TO THE EARLY 2000'S. WHEN IT FIRST STARTED I THOUGHT IT WAS DUE TO USING CAR WASHES. BUT THEN I NOTICED OTHER VEHICLES HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. HONDA DIDN'T EVEN SEND A REPRESENTATIVE TO LOOK AT THE CAR WHEN I REQUESTED ONE. *TR

THE REAR ENGINE BEAM RUSTED THROUGH ON THE PASSENGER SIDE OF MY 2001 HONDA ACCORD EX 4 CYLINDER SEDAN RENDERING THE VEHICLE UN-DRIVABLE. HONDA MOTOR CO REFUSES TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ISSUE WHICH IS A DESIGN DEFECT CAUSED BY THE AIR CONDITIONER DRAIN LINE BEING PLACED SO THAT IT LEAKED ONTO THE PASSENGER SIDE OF THE REAR ENGINE BEAM. THE DRIVER SIDE OF THE BEAM IS PERFECT, WITH NO RUST ISSUE. I HAVE BEEN TO 3 LOCAL METRO DETROIT HONDA DEALERSHIPS AND THEY REFUSE TO REPLACE THE ENGINE BEAM. EACH OF THESE LOCAL DEALERSHIPS ARE ALSO REFUSING TO PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THEY ARE REFUSING TO REPLACE THE REAR ENGINE BEAM EVEN THOUGH I REALIZE I WOULD BE PAYING FOR IT. I CAN ONLY GUESS AS TO WHY, THAT BEING IF THE DEALERSHIPS REFUSE TO REPLACE THE REAR ENGINE BEAMS, THEN IF HONDA IS SUED IN A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT, THEY CAN DENY THERE BEING A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO SUPPORTING REPAIR DOCUMENTATION TO SUBPOENA. I BOUGHT THIS CAR NEW FROM HONDA AND HAVE A FILE THREE INCHES THICK WITH DEALERSHIP MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR INVOICES. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF OWNER NEGLECT. THERE ARE MANY OTHER COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER 2001 HONDA ACCORD OWNERS ON THE INTERNET WITH THIS SAME COMPLAINT TO WHICH THE NHTSA HAS SO FAR REFUSED TO FORCE A RECALL. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS DESIGN DEFECT IS ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE TOYOTA TRUCKS WHICH WERE RECALLED SEVERAL YEARS AGO FOR RUSTED FRAMES WHICH RENDERED THOSE VEHICLES UN-DRIVABLE. THIS SAME YEAR VEHICLE ALSO HAD A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FOR TRANSMISSION ISSUES. THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE HAS HAD 5 TRANSMISSIONS REPLACED OF WHICH I PAID FOR THE LAST ONE BECAUSE OF THE FAULTY TRANSMISSION DESIGN. THIS RUSTED AREA IS NEXT TO THE TRANSMISSION, WHICH MEANS THE DEALERSHIP HAD TO HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEM DEVELOPING, BUT DECIDED TO REMAIN SILENT ABOUT IT. I HAVE OWNED 4 HONDAS AND WILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER ONE. *TT

I BROUGHT MY 2001 HONDA ACCORD, WHICH IS IN PRISTINE CONDITION, WITH 158,000 MILES IN TO MY MECHANIC. CLUNKING NOISE IN THE RIGHT FRONT PASSENGER AREA...FIGURED IT TO BE BAD SWAY BARS, CV JOINTS ETC, SO NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR. I GET A CALL LATER THAT DAY TO HEAR IT IS A MAJOR SUBFRAME RUSTING ISSUE AND THAT THE FRAME CONNECTION TO THE BODY IS BROKEN AND THE SUBFRAME ITSELF IS IN MUTIPLE PIECES. HE TELLS ME YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS...TOOK PICTURES...DOCUMENTED THE PROBLEM. I TOO DID SOME RESEARCH ONLINE AND FOUND THAT THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM WITH THIS YEAR AND THAT HONDA RECOGNIZES THIS BUT FAILS TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THE AIR CONDITION DRAIN IS POSITIONED SO THAT IT IS CONSTANTLY DRIPPING ON TO THAT PART OF THE SUB FRAME. THIS IS A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE AND I WAS ADVISED NOT TO DRIVE THE VEHICLE UNTIL I HAD THE PART REPLACED. HONDA NEEDS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS BEFORE SOMEONE GETS SEVERELY HURT AND THIS TURNS INTO A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.

THE GREEN PAINT ON THE ROOF AND DOOR STARTED TO PEEL OFF AND GENERATED WHITE LAYER SUBSTANCE. I NOTICED MANY HONDA GREEN CARS HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS BADLY MANUFACTURED, FAULTY AND DEFECTIVE PAINT. *TR

MAKE & MODEL: 2001 HONDA ACCORD LX 4 DOOR SEDAN. PROBLEM: DRIVER SIDE INTERIOR DOOR HANDLE CHROME PLATING PEELED OFF CAUSING LACERATION. SOLUTION: TAPED THE CHROME PLATING BACK TO THE HANDLE DUCT TAPE. *TR

THE PAINT ON MY NEW HONDA WITH PAINT PROTECTION, LITERALLY STARTED TO BLISTER AND "ULCER" DOWN TO THE PRIMER LEVEL WITHIN 10 MONTHS OF PURCHASE. NONE OF THE OTHER CARS, PARKED IN THE SAME AREA, ARE SUFFERING THE SAME DAMAGE. I HAVE HAD TWO AUTO BODY RESTORERS LOOK AT IT, AS THE DAMAGE HAS SPREAD ON THE HOOD, AND HAS STARTED ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR. IN ONE CASE, THE ULCERATION HAS GONE DOWN TO THE BASE METAL. HONDA AND THE DEALERSHIP, OURISMAN HONDA, HAVE REFUSED TO HELP, BLAME "SUPERBIRDS," IGNORE THE PROFESSIONAL OPINIONS OF THE RESTORERS, AND HAVE REFUSED TO HONOR BOTH THE HONDA AND PAINT PROTECTION WARRANTIES. THE AUTO RESTORERS BELIEVE THE DEFECT IS WITH THE PREP OR THE PAINT ITSELF, AND THAT OTHER HONDA OWNERS MAY BE SUFFERING FROM THE SAME PROBLEM. THE ENTIRE CARE HAS TO BE REPAINTED AT AN ESTIMATED COST OF $3500.*AK

MISSING FRONT BUMPER BOLTS CLEARLY INDICATED MY ALLEGEDLY NEW 2001 ACCORD'S BUMPER HAD BEEN REPLACED. CALIFORNIA-HONDA REPRESENTATIVE VISIITNG THE DEALERSHIP SAID SHE "COULDN'T EXPLAIN" HOW THE BOLTS COULD HAVE SLIPPED THROUGH HOLES SMALLER THAN THE BOLTHEADS, BUT THAT MY COMPAINT MERELY INDICATED I WAS UNHAPPY WITH THE CAR, OR I SOMEHOW DISLODGED THE BOLTS, AND ANYHOW THAT WAS TOO BAD. SPECIFICALLY, I WAS INFORMED THAT IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO SELL A NEW CAR THAT HAD BEEN REPAIRED. A DEALERSHIP MECHANIC THEN SHOUTED AT MY WIFE AND I TO "GET OUT" OF HIS BUSY GARAGE. THE DEALERSHIP'S MANAGER (NOT PRESENT DURING THE DISPUTE) SUBSEQUENTLY RESPONDED TO MY COMPLAINT WITH BBB BY IGNORING THE COMPLAINT AND PRAISING HIS GARAGE STAFF WHO, HE ASSURED BBB, TOLD HIM EVERYTHING. EVENTUALLY I DISCOVERED THAT BBB NOT ONLY REJECTED MY COMPLAINT BUT ALSO DID NOT BOTHER TO REGISTERIT AS A COMPLAINTT. WHENI POINTED OUT ITS OMISSION, BBB FINALLY NOTED THE COMPLAINT--AS THE ONLY ONE AGAINST THIS LARGE DEALERSHIP, WHICH IS A BBB MEMBER,AND DESCRIBED THE COMPLAINT AS "RESOLVED." IT WAS NOT. MY WIFE, ACCOMPANYING ME AT THE GARAGE INCIDENT THOUGH ILL WITH PANCREATIC CANCER, HAS SINCE DIED, AND SUCH WERE TIMES THAT DID NOT ENCOURAGE MY PURSUING EITHER BBB OR THE HONDA DEALERSHIP, LOCATED IN BLOOMSBURG, PA, FOR WHAT I HAD SUPPOSED WOULD BE SIMPLE ANWERS, NOT DEFENSIVE EVASIONS.*AK

OWNER LIFTED TRUNK HALF WAY WHEN IT DROPPED DOWN AND FELL UPON OWNERS AND HIS DAUGHTERS HEAD, WITHOUT WARNING. *AK *YH