2008 Honda Odyssey SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC

WHILE DRIVING WITH FOOT ON THE GAS THE VEHICLE FELT AS IF I WAS PUMPING THE BRAKES BUT I WAS NOT TOUCHING THE BRAKES. IT WAS SLOWING. I THEN HEARD A RATTLING NOISE SO I TURNED OFF THE RADIO AND OPENED THE WINDOW TO LISTEN. I CONTINUED TO DRIVE AND FELT THE SAME "BRAKE PUMPING" SENSATION AGAIN. I WAS NEAR THE DEALER SO I HEADED THERE TO REPORT THE ISSUES. DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE DEALER I FELT A VIBRATION UNDER MY FOOT ON THE GAS PEDAL AND HEAR A VIBRATION SOUND. I ARRIVED AT THE DEALER TO REPORT THE INCIDENT. I TOLD THE SERVICE REP. THAT I'D REPORTED THE SAME SENSATION 11 MONTHS AGO WHILE DRIVING ON VACATION (WHILE ON THE FREEWAY). WHEN I RETURNED HOME I BROUGHT THE VEHICLE TO DEALERSHIP BUT THEY FOUND NOTHING. I'M AFRAID TO DRIVE IT. IF IT DOES THIS WHILE SOMEONE IS DRIVING DIRECTLY BEHIND ME IT WILL CAUSE AN ACCIDENT. I HONESTLY DON'T FEEL THAT IS IT IS SAFE FOR ME OR OTHERS ON THE ROAD TO DRIVE THE VEHICLE. I'M AFRAID IT WILL DO THE SAME THING ON THE FREEWAY WHILE I'M TRAVELING AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED. AT THIS MOMENT I FEEL LIKE IT IS A DEATH TRAP AND WILL NOT DRIVE IT. I'M WAITING FROM THE DEALERSHIP IN THE MORNING. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE BRAKE PEDAL FELT SOFT AND MADE A GRINDING NOISE WHEN THE BRAKES WERE DEPRESSED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER SEVERAL TIMES FOR THE FAILURE. THE ROTORS AND THE DRIVE SHAFT WAS REPLACED. THE FAILURE WAS NOT CORRECTED. THE BRAKE PEDAL STILL FELT SOFT AND CONTINUED TO MAKE A GRINDING NOISE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 9,500 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE AS 47,462.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED ABNORMALLY INTO THE FLOORBOARD WHEN THE BRAKES WERE APPLIED. IN ORDER TO STOP THE VEHICLE, THE CONTACT HAD TO APPLY REPEATED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER, BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE ROTORS WERE RESURFACED, BUT THE FAILURE CONTINUED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 28,000.

THE BRAKE PEDAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN"SOFT". IT HAS JUST BEEN GETTING WORSE.ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AFTER JAN 2010 THE PEDAL ALMOST REACHES THE FLOOR OF THE VEHICLE. AS A RESULT OF A HONDA RECALL IN MAY 2010, I HAD THE VEHICLE CHECKED AT A HONDA DEALER IN SANDUSKY, OH. SINCE THEN I HAVE TAKEN THE VEHICLE TO MY LOCAL HONDA DEALER IN DELAND, FL THREE (3) TIMES. ON NO OCCASION HAS THE BRAKE PEDAL BEEN ADJUSTED TO PREVENT THE PEDAL TRAVEL TO NEAR THE FLOOR. ALSO SEVERAL TIMES AS I HAD TO BRAKE SUDDENLY, MY FOOT HAS SIMULTANEOUSLY PRESSED THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL ALMOST CAUSING MY VEHICLE TO HIT AN OBJECT IN FRONT OF MY VEHICLE. I CANNOT EVEN SELL THIS VEHICLE KNOWING OF THIS APPARENT DEFECT. THE SERVICE PERSONNEL AT THE DEALER CONFIRM THAT THERE IS AN INHERENT DEFECT IN THE 2007 AND 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY, AND THERE IS "NOTHING" THEY CAN DO TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM. I STRONGLY FEEL THAT I WILL HAVE TO CONSULT WITH AN ATTORNEY TO SETTLE THIS PROBLEM. I HAVE MORE THAN 35,000 DOLLARS INVESTED IN THIS VEHICLE AND AM NOT BEING TREATED FOR THIS DEFECT. *TR

BRAKES ARE EXTREMELY SOFT AND SPONGY, PEDAL SOMETIMES HAS TO BE PRESSED COMPLETELY TO THE FLOOR TO ENGAGE PROPER BRAKING, NEARLY CAUSING A CRASH ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. TAKES MUCH LONGER THAN IT SHOULD TO STOP THE VEHICLE. PUMPING BRAKE PEDAL ALLOWS FOR BETTER BRAKING, AS IF THERE WAS AIR IN THE LINE. RECALL WORK COMPLETED IN AUGUST 2011 FOR A SIMILAR ISSUE WHERE AIR COULD BUILD UP IN SYSTEM, BUT IT DID NOT FIX ISSUE. TWO VISITS TO HONDA SERVICE CENTER AND THEY INDICATE NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM AFTER MULTIPLE TESTS. DEALER ADVISED THAT PREVIOUS RECALL REPAIR WAS COMPLETED CORRECTLY. DEALER ADVISES THAT THEY TESTED AGAINST OTHER ODYSSEY'S AND ALL APPEAR TO BRAKE THE SAME, SO THERE IS NO ISSUE. GOOGLE INTERNET SEARCH REVEALED HUNDREDS OF SIMILAR COMPLAINTS ON THIS MODEL YEAR AND SIMILAR CLAIMS FROM VARIOUS HONDA DEALERS THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BRAKING SYSTEM. *TR

2008 HONDA ODYSSEY - BRAKES ENGAGE BY THEMSELVES. THIS HAS HAPPENED 3 TIMES. TRAVELING AT SPEED LIMIT (~45 MPH) AND SUDDENLY THE VANS BRAKE PEDAL ENGAGES AND STOPS THE CAR BY ITSELF. DEALER FLUSHED BRAKE LINE AND REFILLED - SAID IT COULD BE CAUSED BY AIR IN THE LINE. DEALER SAID THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE THEY COULD DO UNLESS THEY COULD DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM. *TR

AFTER DRIVING FOR SEVERAL MILES AND APPLY THE BRAKES IT MAKES A GRINDING SOUND. I HAVE TAKEN IT TO THE DEALER SHIP SEVERAL TIMES BUT THEY COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM AND COULD NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THE PADS WERE CHECKED EACH TIME AND WERE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. *TT

I HAVE A HONDA ODYSSEY 2008 MODEL - PROBLEMS ARE: 1. BRAKES ARE SORT OF GIVING A FEELING THEY ARE NOT RIGID AND FIRM. THE PEDAL SHAKES WHEN THE BRAKES RE APPLIED TO SLOW DOWN THE SPEED 2. THERE IS A FRICTION SOUND THAT IS ANNOYING ALL THE TIME AND THIS HAPPENS WHEN THE VEHICLE IS STATIONARY FOR LONG TIME AND THEN MOVED. 3. WHEN RIDING IN SNOW CONDITIONS, THE BRAKE PEDAL SHAKES ALONG WITH THE VEHICLE HYDROPLANING. *TR

2008 ODYSSEY WITH BRAKE PROBLEMS, FRONT ROTORS REPLACED AT 20K, RECALL FOR AIR IN BRAKE SYSTEM COMPLETED, TOOK BACK TO DEALER COMPLAINING THAT AIR IS BACK. REBLEED SYSTEM AGAIN BETTER, BACK TO DEALER ABOUT SIX MONTHS LATER, THEY SAY NEEDS BRAKES REPLACED AT A COST OF 400.00 TO 500.00. CONTINUED TO DRIVE VEHICLE BRAKES WORKED OKAY BUT SHOOK VAN WHEN DRIVEN FOR A WHILE, 60K FRONT ROTORS AND BACK ROTOR NEED REPAIR FRONT PADS NEED REPLACING BACK PADS OKAY BUT DEALER SAID AGAIN NEED BRAKES AT ALL 4 CORNERS. DID THE WORK MY SELF TO SAVE MONEY. WHEN BLEEDING BRAKES I NOTICED BLACK COLORED STUFF COMING OUT AND LOTS OF AIR. WHEN WILL HONDA REALLY FIX THE BRAKES? AFTER A FAMILY DIES BECAUSE OF BRAKE FAILURE. SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS SYSTEM. FRONT ROTORS TWICE AND REAR ROTORS AT 60K. REAR PADS WERE OKAY BUT REPLACED BECAUSE THEY MAD NOISE REAL BAD. *TR

WHILE I WAS ACCELERATING AT APROX. 40-45 MPH THE CAR SUDDENLY BRAKES BY HIS OWN. I SAW THE BRAKE PEDAL MOVING BY ITSELF ! I GOT SCARED BY THE CONSEQUENCES OR THE RISK OF HAVING AN ACCIDENT. ON THE WAY TO MY HOME IT HAPPENED TWO (2) MORE TIMES WHILE GETTING SPEED. WENT TO THE DEALER BUT THEY DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING. ONE WEEK BEFORE THE INCIDENT THE DEALER REPLACED TWO FRONT BRAKE PADS AND CUT THE FRONT ROTORS BECAUSE THE CAR VIBRATED WHEN THE BRAKES WERE APPLIED. THE ROTORS WERE ATTENDED BEFORE. BEFORE THIS INCIDENT THE VSA LIGHT TURNED ON TWO TIMES WHILE STEPPING THE BRAKES AND THE VEHICLE USED TO VIBRATE. I'M CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY OF MY KIDS. *TR

I HAVE A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY AND HAVE EXPERIENCED AN EXTREMELY SOFT BRAKE PEDAL. ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS AS MY RIGHT FOOT PUT NORMAL PRESSURE ON THE BRAKE PEDAL, THE PEDAL WENT ALMOST DOWN TO THE FLOOR OF THE VEHICLE, CAUSING MY TOE TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL AND THE VEHICLE LURCHED FORWARD. THIS HAS HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES. I DID RECEIVE A RECALL NOTICE FROM HONDA IN MAY 2010 PERTAINING TO THE SOFT BRAKE PEDAL PROBLEM. I HAVE NOW HAD MY PEDAL ADJUSTED THREE TIMES BY HONDA SERVICE AND IT DOES NOT IMPROVE THE PROBLEM. EACH TIME THE HONDA SERVICE PERSONNEL HAVE EXPLAINED THE "2007 AND 2008 ODYSSEY MODELS HAVE AN INHERENT "SOFT BRAKE" PROBLEM. I FEAR AN EMERGENCY BRAKING OF THE ODYSSEY CAN RESULT IN A SERIOUS HIGHWAY COLLISION AND OR SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH. MY OPINION IS THAT HONDA IS NOT CONCERNED WITH THE DANGER THIS PROBLEM IS TO MY FAMILY OR OTHERS WHO MIGHT SUFFER INJURIES OR DEATH DUE TO THE BRAKING PROBLEM. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT WAS DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 10 MPH AND APPLIED THE BRAKES WHEN THE BRAKES DID NOT RESPOND AND THE CONTACT CRASHED INTO THE REAR OF ANOTHER VEHICLE. THERE WERE NO INJURIES OR DAMAGE TO EITHER VEHICLE. THE DEALER WAS CONTACTED AND ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS PREVIOUSLY REPAIRED UNDER NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 10V098000 (SERVICE BRAKES, AIR). THE DEALER ADVISED THE CONTACT TO TAKE THE VEHICLE IN FOR INSPECTION. THE VEHICLE WAS NEITHER INSPECTED NOR REPAIRED. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 50,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHENEVER THE VEHICLE WAS DRIVEN 40 MPH AND OVER, THE VEHICLE WOULD SHAKE ABNORMALLY WITH AN ACCOMPANYING RATTLING SOUND WHEN APPLYING THE BRAKES. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER SEVERAL TIMES BUT THE DEALER WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE OR DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. THE CONTACT WAS CONCERNED THAT THE BRAKES WOULD FAIL AT SOME POINT. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS UNKNOWN AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 30,000. UPDATED 06/07/11*LJ UPDATED 06/13/11

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 25-30 MPH, THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF HIM SUDDENLY STOPPED. THE CONTACT APPLIED THE BRAKES BUT HE CRASHED INTO THE REAR OF VEHICLE. THERE WERE NO INJURIES AND NO POLICE REPORT WAS FILED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER WHO COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE HAD BEEN ONGOING SINCE APRIL 2008, AND THE VEHICLE HAD BEEN TAKEN TO THE DEALER SEVERAL TIMES, BUT THERE HAD BEEN NO REPAIRS MADE. THE VEHICLE WAS RECENTLY REPAIRED ACCORDING TO RECALL 10V098000 (SERVICE BRAKES, AIR) BUT WHEN THE BRAKES WERE APPLIED, THE VEHICLE SHOOK. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER FOR THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 1,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 65,365.

2008 ODYSSEY BRAKES FEEL CHANGES AND DOES NOT FEEL LIKE IT IS STOPPING. CAUSED THE VAN TO HIT WASHER IN GARAGE. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE ABS BRAKING SYSTEM ACTIVATES BY ITSELF. WHEN STOPPING THE VEHICLE IT MAKES A GRINDING NOISE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER AND THEY COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. THE DEALER STATED THAT THE FAILURE IS KNOWN TO THE MANUFACTURER, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE A REPAIR FOR IT AT THIS TIME. HIS VEHICLE IS INCLUDED IN NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 10V098000, SERVICE BRAKES; AIR, RECALL AND IT WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR THE REMEDY. THE REMEDY DID NOT REPAIR THE FAILURE AND IT WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER AGAIN. THE CONTACT WAS WAITING FOR A CALL FROM THE MANUFACTURER. THE VEHICLE HAD NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 25,000.

2008 MODEL YEAR HONDA ODYSSEY.. RECALL PERFORMED, BRAKES MUCH IMPROVED. 4K MILES LATER BRAKE PEDAL VERY LOW AND VERY SOFT. RECALL WAS PERFORMED A SECOND TIME. SOME IMPROVEMENT. ANOTHER 4K MILES PEDAL IS VERY LOW AND SOFT. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE DRIVING BETWEEN 30-35 MPH, THE CONTACT ENGAGED THE BRAKE PEDAL AND THE VEHICLE WOULD NOT RESPOND. THE CONTACT CRASHED INTO THE REAR OF ANOTHER VEHICLE CAUSING THAT VEHICLE TO CRASH INTO THE REAR OF ANOTHER VEHICLE. THERE WERE NO INJURIES. A POLICE REPORT WAS AVAILABLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE DEALER FOR REPAIRS TO THE BRAKES AND BODY DAMAGE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT PRIOR TO THE FAILURE, HE HAD CONTACTED THE DEALER THREE TIMES IN REGARDS TO NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 10V098000 (SERVICE BRAKES, AIR). THE DEALER ADVISED THAT THE CONTACT WOULD NEED TO PHYSICALLY RECEIVE THE RECALL LETTER BEFORE THEY WOULD FURTHER INSPECT THE VEHICLE FOR FAILURES. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF THE RECALL FOLLOWING THE CRASH AND REPAIRS. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 38,436.

BRAKES GLAZE ACCORDING TO THE HONDA DEALERSHIP. SEEMS TO BE MORE DIFFICULT TO STOP THE VEHICLE. *TR

IN FEBRUARY I PURCHASED A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY WITH 25K MILES, BRAKES PEDAL SEEMS INCONSISTENT, SPONGY WITH EXCESSIVE PEDAL TRAVEL BEFORE BRAKES RESPOND. FEELS LIKE AIR IN LINES WHICH REQUIRES THE DRIVER TO PRE-THINK BRAKING AND LEAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE BETWEEN THEM AND THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF THEM. ABRUPT STOPS ARE DIFFICULT AND DELAYED DUE TO THE INCONSISTENCY. RETURNED VAN TO DEALER IMMEDIATELY AND WAS TOLD IT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE, "THIS IS HOW THE ODYSSEY BRAKES FEEL". *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE ACCELERATING FROM A TRAFFIC STOP AT 15 MPH, THE VEHICLE AHEAD OF HIM ABRUPTLY APPLIED THE BRAKES CAUSING THE CONTACT TO CRASH INTO THE REAR OF THE VEHICLE. THE CONTACT STATED HE APPLIED THE BRAKES BUT THEY DID NOT ENGAGE. THERE WERE NO INJURIES. THE DEALER WAS UNABLE TO DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. THERE WERE NO REPAIRS. ON A SEPARATE OCCASION WHILE DRIVING AT 35 MPH, A PRECEDING VEHICLE STOPPED AND THE CONTACT ATTEMPTED TO BRAKE BUT TO NO AVAIL. THE BRAKES DID NOT ENGAGE AND THE CONTACT CRASHED INTO THE VEHICLE. THERE WERE NO INJURIES AND THE VEHICLE WAS DRIVABLE. SOON AFTER, THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 10V098000 (SERVICE BRAKES, AIR). THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WAS UNKNOWN.

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE DRIVING 40 MPH THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKE AND THE VSA LIGHT ILLUMINATED ON THE DASHBOARD. HE STATED THAT THE LIGHT MAY STAY ON FOR 50 TO 100 MILES AND THE LIGHT WOULD SHUT OFF. HE STATED THAT WHEN THE ABS LIGHT WAS ON HE HAD REGULAR BRAKES. THE FAILURE HAD OCCURRED FOR AT LEAST A YEAR. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER SEVERAL TIMES FOR THE FAILURE BUT THEY COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. HE ALSO STATED THAT THE DEALER HAD NEVER WRITTEN AN INVOICE FOR THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 12,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 18,000.

2008 HONDA ODYSSEY - BRAKE PROBLEMS. PURCHASED VEHICLE NEW. TOO MUCH PLAY WHEN PRESSING BRAKE PEDAL. TOOK TO DEALERSHIP A FEW TIMES. WAS TOLD INITIALLY THAT THIS WAS SIMPLY HOW THIS MODEL DROVE. I DISAGREED. TOOK IT IN AGAIN AND THE MODULATOR (OR REGULATOR OF SOME SORT) WAS REPLACED AND I WAS TOLD THIS WAS DEFECTIVE. SEEMS SIMILAR TO OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED. I SAW IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENTS ONCE THIS PART WAS REPLACED. *TR

DRIVER IN FRONT ME STOPPED AND I WAS UNABLE TO SLOW DOWN DUE TO THE UNRESPONSIVENESS OF MY 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. I ENDED UP REAR ENDING THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF ME. WE'VE BEEN COMPLAINING OF SOFT BRAKES AND THE INABILITY TO STOP FOR AWHILE TO THE DEALER. THEY'VE SAID IT'S NORMAL. ON A TRIP UP TO RENO RECENTLY, IT WAS VERY APPARENT THAT THE VEHICLE HAD PROBLEMS STOPPING. THE BRAKES WOULD CAUSE THE STEERING WHEEL TO SHAKE. WE'VE HAD MANY VEHICLES AND HAVE NOT HAD THIS ISSUE. *TR

HONDA ODYSSEY 2008 - BRAKE ISSUE - CAR SHUDDERS SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN THE BRAKES ARE APPLIED - SPEEDS IN EXCESS OF 30 MPH WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR LOCAL HONDA DEALERSHIP THAT OUR CAR IS SHUDDERING DUE TO WARPED ROTORS - THE ODYSSEY ONLY HAS 50K ON IT AND THERE IS PLENTY OF BRAKE PAD SO I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHY THE ROTORS WOULD ALREADY BE WARPED AND NEED TO EITHER BE RESURFACED OR REPLACED. THIS SEEMS RATHER ODD AND I HAVE SEEN MANY OTHER SIMILAR COMPLAINTS OUT ON THE WEB REGARDING THIS ISSUE. THE SERVICE INDIVIDUAL AT HONDA AUTOSPORT ALSO TOLD ME THAT IT WAS VERY COMMON FOR BOTH PADS AND ROTORS TO BE REPLACED AT 35K AND THAT WE WERE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE 50K ON OUR VAN WITH PLENTY OF BRAKE PAD REMAINING. IN ADDITION TO THE SIGNIFICANT, ALMOST VIOLENT SHUDDERING THAT IMPACTS STEERING THAT OCCURS WHEN THE BRAKES ARE APPLIED - WHEN THE 2008 ODYSSEY COMES TO A STOP THERE IS A GRINDING SOUND THAT WE HAVE BEGUN TO NOTICE IN THE LAST 3 WEEKS WHICH THE DEALERSHIP CANNOT EXPLAIN. WE ALSO JUST RECEIVED THE COST OF REPLACING THE ROTORS AND BRAKES - $645 DOLLARS FOR A CAR THAT IS JUST 2 YEARS OLD - THIS SHOULD NOT BE COMMON PLACE. I HAVE ALSO CALLED AND REPORTED THIS TO AMERICAN HONDA, HOWEVER, THEY WERE NOT VERY HELPFUL WITH THIS MATTER. *TR