2017 Honda Pilot Electrical System

It appears the Power Control Module is failing on this vehicle. Honda should recall this part. Basically, it goes off automatically. The alarm will go off at random times, which I actually had to disable, as it would wake us and our neighbors up at all times throughout the night. The dashboard lights up and blinks randomly. You can hear clicking sounds. A lot of people online who have had the same issue report that replacing the Power Control Module is the only fix. They have tried replacing the battery, the ignition switch and other parts to avail. This first happened about 6-months ago. I also recorded the issue that is happening, but the below evidence upload will not accept video. Please let me know if you want me to provide the video.

When the vehicle is off, there's a clicking sound and the dashboard turns off and on randomly as if it's possessed. Also, the air bag lights go on. It does this even when the car is completely off. The keyless remote problem also lights up even though this was repaired last year.

Alarms go off for no reason. The display shows Keyless Start System Problem.

ELECTRICAL ISSUES INCLUDE KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM FAILURE, AUTO-LOCK NO LONGER LOCKING THE VEHICLE AS YOU WALK AWAY FROM IT, CRASH MITIGATION SYSTEM FAILURE, RADIO STATIONS NO LONGER COMING IN CLEAR. HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES AND THE DEALERSHIP SAYS THAT THEY HAVE ADJUSTED SOMETHING BUT THEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

The contact owns a 2017 Honda Pilot. The contact stated that the vehicle experienced various electrical failures while driving and stationary. The contact stated that the security alarm independently activated without incidence. The contact also stated that an abnormal crackling sound was coming from the engine with several warning lights flashing on the instrument panel. After replacing the battery, the headlights independently illuminated while the vehicle was shut-off. The contact restarted the vehicle and manually turned off the headlights however, the failure recurred. The vehicle was taken to a dealer to be diagnosed. The contact was informed that the fuse box needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and referred the contact to the NHTSA. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 60,000.

Keyless Start System problem. Deelership said the problem is with the push button Engine start stop and had to be replaced and said it’s a common problem.

STOPPING THE FULL ELECTRICAL SYSTEM TURNS ON THEN OFF. THIS HAPPENED AT TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN THE CITY, ON A HILL WITH STOP SIGN IN SAN FRANCISCO OR CITY, IT ALSO HAPPENS IN DRIVE THROUGH BASICALLY WHENEVER YOU STOP FROM A MOVING MOTION. THE DASH INFORMATION SYSTEM FLASHES AND FLICKERS, THE PILOT THEN HAS TO BE PUT INTO PARK AND PUSH START BUTTON TO TURN THE MOTOR BACK ON. THIS HAS.BEEN DANGEROUS AS THIS ISSUE HAS BURNED OUT A BATTERY AND HAD TO TOW THE PILOT TO THE DEALERSHIP AND THEY DIDN'T REIMBURSE AND SAID IT WAS A MAINTENANCE BATTERY ISSUE. I HAVE FOLLOWED MY WIFE IN ANOTHER CAR AND THE TAIL LIGHTS AND THE LICENSE PLATE LIGHT FLICKER. THIS IS INTERMITTENT AS THE DEALERSHIP WILL NOT INVESTIGATE AS THEY CAN'T DUPLICATE THIS ISSUE,

KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM ERROR APPEARING ON DASHBOARD. VEHICLE HAS 47,000 MILES ON IT. ELECTRICAL IS GOING HAYWIRE IN THAT LIGHTS INTERMITTENTLY TURN ON, ALL ERROR LIGHTS FLASH ON DASH AND DASH TRIES TO BOOT THROUGH VARIOUS IGNITION STATES (ACCESSORY MODE, IDLE, ETC). CAR ALARM WILL RANDOMLY GO OFF, AND IT TAKES SEVERAL MINUTES TO DISENGAGE ALARM BECAUSE KEY FOB NOT WORKING CORRECTLY WHEN ALARM IS ENGAGED. HAD TO DISCONNECT CAR BATTERY TO MAKE IT STOP. KEY FOB BATTERIES WERE REPLACED 6 MONTHS AGO SO NOT THAT. DEALERSHIP SAID THAT THEY NEEDED TO ORDER A PART AND THAT HONDA WAS AWARE OF THIS ISSUE AND WOULD PAY FOR ABOUT 90% OF THE COST OF PARTS AND LABOR, SO THE MANUFACTURER IS AWARE THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE. DEALERSHIP SPENT ROUGHLY 2 HOURS RUNNING DIAGNOSTICS ON IT. HAPPENS RANDOMLY (3 TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF 4 WEEKS) WHEN VEHICLE IS PARKED IN GARAGE, AND KEY FOBS ARE SITTING OUT, FACE UP, NOT BEING PRESSED IN ANY MANNER THAT MIGHT ACCIDENTALLY ENGAGE A BUTTON.

AT APPRX 50K MILES (MARCH 2020), DISPLAY PANEL INTERMITTENTLY INDICATED "KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM" AND NOW (SEPT 2020) THAT ERROR CODE IS CONSTANT. FOR A FEW DAYS RECENTLY THE ERROR CODE DISAPPEARED, BUT IT CAME BACK... THE CODE SHOWS WHEN YOU START THE CAR. THE CAR DOES START EVERY TIME BUT I AM WORRYING THAT ONE DAY IT MAY NOT. I GOOGLED THE PROBLEM AND DID SOME OF THE REMEDIES (CHANGE THE FOB BATTERY, PRESS THE BRAKE FOR 30 SECS WHILE THE CAR IS ON) BUT THE ERROR CODE REMAINS. SEEMS A LOT OF OTHERS ARE HAVING THIS ISSUE. I CALLED THE LOCAL HONDA DEALERSHIP AND SPOKE WITH A SERVICE REP WHO SAID HE COMES ACROSS THE PROBLEM A FEW TIMES EVERY WEEK AND DOES REPLACE THE KEYLESS STARTER BUTTON.

CAR WAS FINE ALL DAY. PARKED WITH THE ENGINE SHUT OFF FOR TWO HOURS WHOLE I WAS WAITING FOR MY KIDS. WHEN I PICKED THEM UP AND STARTED THE CAR, IT HAS A WARNING. MY 2017 HONDA PILOT ONLY HAS A LITTLE MORE THAN 38,000 MI AND NOW IT'S SAYING "KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM". I HAVE READ A LOT OF ARTICLES WITH THE 2016 AND 2017 HONDA PILOTS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM PERSISTS EVEN AFTER I CHANGED MY BATTERY FOR MY KEY FOB, THINKING IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE PROBLEM. I TRIED BOTH KEY FOBS, PROBLEM IS STILL THERE.

SMARTPHONE LINKING FUNCTIONS DEFECTIVE AND DISCONNECTS WHILE OPERATING VEHICLE, CAUSING A DRIVER DISTRACTION WITH LOSS OF NAVIGATIONAL FUNCTIONS AND LOSS OF HANDS-FREE PHONE OPERATION. HAS BEEN IN TO DEALER FOR THIS CONDITION MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. THIS CONDITION MOST OFTEN OCCURS WHILE VEHICLE IS IN MOTION. THE AUDIO SYSTEM LOSES ABILITY TO ADJUST VOLUME, CAUSING A DANGER TO THE DRIVER WHO IS UNABLE TO TURN DOWN THE AUDIO VOLUME. THIS IS A SAFETY CONCERN WITH THE VEHICLE THAT IS UNRESOLVED.

WARNING LIGHT "KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM." THE SYSTEM ERROR WARNING LIGHT COMES ON AND OFF. NO OTHER ISSUES NOTED. I'VE BEEN READING MANY BLOGS AND REVIEWS ON THIS ISSUE. MY CONCERN IS THAT MY CAR WILL STOP WHILE IDLE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROPER AGENCY IS ALERTED TO THIS ISSUE IN SUPPORT OF A RECALL.

THE AUTO IDLE DOESN'T ALWAYS RE ENGAGE WHEN AT A STOP LIGHT. VERY SCARY. WORRIED ABOUT BEING HIT FROM BEHIND.

I WAS STOPPED AT A STOP LIGHT AND MY AUTO IDLE KICKED IN. WHEN I TOOK MY FOOT OFF OF THE BRAKE THE ENGINE DIED AND WOULDN'T START BACK UP. I WAS STUCK IN THE STREET, BLOCKING TRAFFIC. I TRIED TO RESTART THE VEHICLE MULTIPLE TIMES WITH NO SUCCESS. AFTER THE TOW TRUCK ARRIVED, THE ENGINE WAS JUMPED AND I DROVE IT TO THE DEALERSHIP. BATTERY WAS CHECKED AND IT WAS FINE. THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO REPEAT THE PROBLEM. *TR

KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM

WHILE DRIVING, I RECEIVED AN ALERT THAT "SOME DRIVER ASSIST SYSTEMS CANNOT OPERATE." LIGHTS INDICATED THAT THE COLLISION MITIGATION, AND LANE DEPARTURE, AND LIGHTS WERE AFFECTED. I DO NOT WANT THE COLLISION MITIGATION SYSTEM TO RANDOMLY DISABLE (OR ANY SYSTEM FOR THAT MATTER). THE DEALER PERFORMED A HARD RESET ON MY SYSTEM AND WE'LL SEE IF IT'S FIXED. STILL, IT POSED A HAZARD TO ME AT THE TIME.

THE AUTO ENGINE IDLE STOP SYSTEM PROBLEM WARNING MESSAGE PRESENTED. DEALERSHIP CANNOT FIND ANYTHING WRONG- BUT LIGHT APPEARS IN DASHBOARD WHEN CAR IS TURNED OFF AND WILL NOT ALARM.

WE LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO AND DO A LOT OF URBAN DRIVING (AKA, THERE'S A TON OF STOP SIGNS). WHEN THE A/C IS NOT ON, THE ENGINE TURNS OFF ALMOST EVERY TIME WE STOP. AFTER OWNING THE BRAND NEW VEHICLE FOR ABOUT A YEAR, THE RADIO AND LIGHTS STARTED TURNING OFF WHEN THE CAR WOULD START BACK UP AT A STOP SIGN/LIGHT. THE POWER TO THE LIGHTS ACTUALLY STARTED TO DIM BEFORE THEY TURNED OFF COMPLETELY. EVENTUALLY, THE CAR FAILED TO START BACK UP ON ITS OWN A FEW TIMES. WE TOOK IT IN TO THE DEALER AND THEY REPLACED THE STARTER UNDER WARRANTY. THE PROBLEM WENT AWAY. WE'RE NOW 2 YEARS + 4 MONTHS INTO OWNING THE CAR AND THE LIGHTS ARE STARTING TO DIM AGAIN WHEN THE CAR IS STARTING BACK UP AT STOP SIGNS/LIGHTS -- I'M HOPING IT FAILS AGAIN BEFORE THE 3 YEAR WARRANTY IS UP SO WE CAN GET IT REPLACED AGAIN FOR FREE. THIS FEELS LIKE A MANUFACTURING DEFECT TO ME -- ONE THAT'S EXACERBATED BY THE FREQUENCY OF STOPS IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT AND A STARTER THAT ISN'T BUILT TO WITHSTAND THAT KIND OF USE. THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FOR A RECALL.

THE BLUE TOOTH FEATURES ARE NOT RELIABLE. THE FEATURE THAT ALLOWS ME TO VERBALLY TELL THE CAR TO CALL SOMEONE IS NOT CONSISTENTLY RESPONSIVE. WHEN I MAKE A CALL FROM MY PHONE, THE CAR DOESN'T ALWAYS PICK IT UP. INCOMING CALLS CONSISTENTLY COME IN CORRECTLY. I CALLED VAN'S HONDA IN GREEN BAY WISCONSIN AND WAS TOLD THAT THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE HONDA AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT I CALL THE CELL PHONE PROVIDER. THEY EXPLAINED THIS IS AN I PHONE ISSUE. CAR IS IN MOTION. IT HAS HAPPENED IN MY DRIVEWAY, ON CITY STREETS AND ALSO ON THE HIGHWAY. VERY UNRELIABLE.

I NOTICED THAT AUTO IDLE WOULD RANDOMLY TURN OFF AND ON THE CARS ELECTRICITY FOR A SECOND. TODAY, AFTER STOPPING FOR TRAFFIC, THE AUTO IDLE KICKED IN AND THE CAR STALLED IN NEUTRAL. WARNING LIGHTS APPEARED AND I TRIED TO FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS TO RESTART THE CAR, BUT IT WOULDN'T RESTART. I WAS UNABLE TO TURN THE CAR OFF. I KEPT TRYING FOR ABOUT 3 MINUTES AND FINALLY THE CAR TURNED OF AND I WAS ABLE TO START THE CAR AGAIN.

UPON EXITING STOP/START EVENTS(AUTO SHUT OFF AT STOP SIGNS/LIGHTS/PARKING LOTS), ENGINE DOES NOT RESTART. INSTEAD, IT SHIFTS INTO PARK, LIGHTS UP ALL INSTRUMENTS ON DISPLAY PANEL, AND REQUIRES A MANUAL RESTART. VEHICLE IS DEAD UNTIL RESTARTED, POSING A HAZARD TO OCCUPANTS/ONCOMING TRAFFIC. HAS HAPPENED MULTIPLE TIMES IN PAST WEEKS. WE ALSO HAVE READ OF MANY OTHER OWNERS OF '16/'17 HONDA PILOT OWNERS HAVING THE EXACT SAME ISSUE.

EVERY FEW DAYS WE GET A INDICATOR THAT READS 'KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM'. HAVE REPLACED THE BATTERY IN FOBS, NO CHANGE. INDICATOR COMES ON WHEN STARTING THE VEHICLE & STAYS ON UNTIL TURNED OFF, MAY OR MAY NOT COME BACK THE NEXT TIME STARTING IT.

THIS IS THE 4TH TIME NOW THAT WE HAVE HAD TO BRING OUT PILOT IN TO BE SERVICED FOR THE SAME THING. WHEN WE TURN THE CAR ON, MULTIPLE ERRORS COME ON OUT OF NOWHERE. POWER STEERING, THE SPEEDOMETER AND MANY OTHER THINGS STOP WORKING. THEY RESET IT AND IT HAPPENS AGAIN. THEY HAVE CHANGED THE BATTERY AND DONE SOMETHING WITH THE ALTERNATOR BUT NEITHER OF THESE THINGS FIXED THE ACTUAL PROBLEM.

MY WIFE WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE ON 09-27-18 AND THE VEHICLE LOST POWER, THE DASH LIT UP ORANGE, AND SEVERAL WARNING LIGHTS CANE ON AND STARTED BEEPING. AS SHE ATTEMPTED TO PULL OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, THE ISSUE RESET ITSELF, AND THE VEHICLE RESUMED POWER AGAIN. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO HONDA FOR A FINAL REPAIR FOR TRANSMISSION ISSUES THE FOLLOWING DAY. IT IS 9 DAYS LATER AND THE VEHICLE IS STILL NOT REPAIRED. PER THE SERVICE ADVISOR, THE DEALERSHIP HAS REPLACED 3 WIRING HARNESSES UNDER THE DASH THAT THEY SAY WERE DEFECTIVE FROM THE FACTORY, ALONG WITH 2 MODULES. THE VEHICLE IS UNSAFE TO DRIVE IN ITS CURRENT STATE, AS IT ITERMITTENTLY LOSES POWER. THE VEHICLE HAD TO BE TOWED TO THE DEALERSHIP IN AUGUST DUE TO THE PUSH BUTTON TRANSMISSION GOING INTO NEUTRAL WHILE DRIVING, AND LOSING FORWARD POWER. THE VEHICLE WOULD NOT GO INTO PARK OR NEUTRAL.

STARTED VEHICLE AND GETTING READY TO BACK OUT OF GARAGE AND SUDDENLY THESE SIX PROBLEM LIGHTS CAME ON IN DASHBOARD!