2012 Hyundai Sonata Steering

STEERING WAS CLUNKING NOISE WHILE TURNING WITH EXCESSIVE MOVING CONTROL. *TR

STARTED CAR ON MORNING OF 12/15 2016, EPS LIGHT CAME ON AND STAYED ON. ELECTRONIC POWER STEERING NOT WORKING AT ALL, EVEN AFTER CAR WAS COMPLETELY WARMED UP.. COULD NOT EVEN STEER ENOUGH TO BACK THE CAR OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY. COULD NOT EVEN GET TO ROAD TO TRY TO DRIVE DOWN STREET. HAD CAR 4 YEARS 11 MONTHS, 59600 MILES. TRYING TO DRIVE WITHOUT EPS IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

CLUNKING SOUND CAUSED BY THE STEERING COLUMN COUPLER WHEN TURNING OR GOING OVER BUMPS ON A CITY STREET. STEERING IS WIGGLING ITSELF AND LOOSE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2012 HYUNDAI SONATA. AFTER THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED UNDER NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 15V568000 (ENGINE), THE CONTACT HEARD AN ABNORMAL NOISE COMING FROM THE STEERING WHEEL WHILE DRIVING 30 MPH. THE FAILURE RECURRED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT A RING IN THE STEERING WHEEL NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 70,000. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.

WHEN TURNING THE STEERING WHEEL TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT EITHER MOVING OR SITTING STILL THERE IS A LOUD CLICKING NOISE COMING FROM THE STEERING SYSTEM. AFTER SOME RESEARCH I FOUND THAT THE $3.00 STEERING COUPLER IS FAILING WHICH WILL LEAD TO THE TOTAL LOSS OF POWER STEERING ASSIST. THIS STARTED AT 82,000 MILES. I CONTACTED THE DEALER AND WAS TOLD THAT IT WOULD COST $276 TO REPLACE THE PART. BECAUSE THIS PART IS MADE OF RUBBER AND HAS A HIGH FAILURE RATE I DO NOT KNOW WHY A SAFETY RECALL HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED. THE LOSS OF STEERING CONTROL IS DEFINITELY A SAFETY ISSUE AND SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT THE DEALERSHIPS CAN USE TO EXPLOIT THE CONSUMER. *TR

I OWN SONATA 2012 GLS WITH CURRENT MILEAGE APPROX. 41000. I GET SOME NOISE EVERY TIME I TURN THE CAR LEFT OR RIGHT. WHEN I INQUIRED TO THE DEALER TO GET IT FIXED, THEY SAID IT WAS A COUPLING ON THE STEERING COLUMN AND WHICH SEEMS TO BE COMMON WITH SONATAS MANUFACTURED BETWEEN 2011-13. I HAVE TO PAY FEW HUNDREDS TO GET THIS FIXED BEFORE WINTER APPROACHES ELSE IT WILL GET WORSE. IF THIS IS COMMON IN SONATAS, WHY HYUNDAI HASN'T RECALLED THEM YET. I DO NOT THINK ANY OTHER CAR, WHICH IS UNDER 45000 MILES EXPERIENCING THIS KIND OF PROBLEM. I AM VERY MUCH UPSET WITH HYUNDAI.

WHEN I START DRIVING OVER 60 MPH, THE STEERING WHEEL AND COLUMN STARTS SHAKING VIOLENTLY, AS WELL AS WHEN I APPLY THE BRAKES OR GO OVER ROUGH/PATCHY ROAD. IT FEELS AS THOUGH THE STEERING WILL FALL OFF. CAR ONLY HAS 82,000 MILES ON IT. WHEN I TOOK IT TO THE DEALER TO GET IT FIXED, THEY SAID IT WAS A COUPLING ON THE STEERING COLUMN, AND THEY TOLD ME IT WAS A WEAR AND TEAR ITEM. THAT IS RIDICULOUS, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD SEVERAL VEHICLES OVER YEARS, SOME WITH OVER 200,000 MILES ON THEM AND HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS. I HAD TO BITE THE BULLET AND PAY THE PRICE TO GET IT FIXED BECAUSE OF HOW DANGEROUS IT FELT DRIVING, AS IF AT ANY MOMENT I COULD HAVE LOST CONTROL, CAUSING AN ACCIDENT. THE DEALER TOLD ME THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM WITH THE SONATAS, BUT YET HYUNDAI HASN'T RECALLED THEM, BUT DID GO ON TO REPLACE THEM IN THE NEWER MODELS, AS IF LEAVING OWNERS OF THE PRE-2013 STYLES TO THEIR OWN DEVICES. NOT TO MENTION, COUNTLESS OTHER PROBLEMS WE HAVE HAD WITH THE THIS PARTICULAR SONATA, SUCH AS THE STARER GOING OUT WITH LESS THAN 20,000 MILES ON IT, THE CONSTANT LOCKING OF THE STEERING WHEEL (TO WHICH I AM AFRAID IT WILL DO WHILE DRIVING), AND THE RADIO GOING OUT WITH LESS THAN 30,000 MILES ON IT. I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO DISAPPOINTED WITH A COMPANY IN MY LIFE.

THE ELECTRONIC POWER STEERING IS FAILING, MUCH LIKE THE 2011 MODEL THAT WAS RECALLED. THE STEERING COLUMN SHAKES AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS, AND "CLUNKS" TURNING THE WHEEL AT LOW OR NO SPEED. IT FEELS LESS STABLE AND LIKE MORE WORK TO DRIVE.

STEERING COLUMN HAS BECOME LOOSE WHEN TURNED. RATTLES BACK AND FORTH WHEN TURNING. AFTER NUMEROUS STOPS AT CAR REPAIR PLACES, FINALLY FOUND A PLACE IN A VERY TINY TOWN WHO KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS WRONG. THIS IS THE THIRD CAR THEY HAVE SAID YHEY HAVE REPAIRED. HYUNDAI APPARENTLY KNOWS THIS IS AN ISSUE AS THIS SHOP HAD TO WAIT AS THE PART WAS SERIOUSLY BACK ORDERED. FORTUNATELY THEY ORDERED EXTRAS AS THE OWNERS MOTHER HAS THE SAME VEHICLE. JUST WAITING FOR HERS TO FALL APART. HE ALSO SHOWED ME THE NEW PART(COG WHEEL) AD AN OLD CHEWED UP ONE OFF A REPAIR. HYUNDAI NEEDS TO ISSUE A RECALL AND REIMBURSE ALL WHO HAVE PAID FOR THE REPAIR.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2012 HYUNDAI SONATA. WHILE TURNING THE VEHICLE, THE CONTACT HEARD A LOUD CLUNKING SOUND. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE STEERING COLUMN FAILED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 90,000.

STARTING APPROXIMATELY 4-5 MONTHS AGO, MY STEERING STARTED RATTLING AND SHAKING WHEN THE CAR HITS BUMPS OR WHEN GOING HIGHER SPEEDS, SUCH AS ON THE INTERSTATE. IT HAS GOTTEN PROGRESSIVELY WORSE. ALSO, THERE IS "SLACK" IN THE STEERING AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS RESPOND IMMEDIATELY WHEN TURNED. I WAS SURPRISED THAT SEVERAL OTHERS ARE HAVING THE SAME EXPERIENCE BUT NO RECALL HAS BEEN ISSUED THAT I AM AWARE OF. *TR

THE COUPLING HAS WORN DOWN RESULTING IN A HORRIBLE CLUNKING SOUND AND FEEL WHEN DRIVING. I AM SCARED MY STEERING COLUMN WILL FALL APART EVERY TIME I GO OVER A BUMP....THAT OR MY WHEELS WILL FALL OFF. $400 BUCKS TO FIX. I'VE READ IT'S HAPPENING TO YHSIBMAKE AND MODEL AND TEAR ALL OVER THE PLACE...WHY DID HYUNDAI USE PLASTIC COUPLINGS? HYUNDAI... YOU NEED TO RECALL THIS.

AT 105K MILES GOT THE "CLUNK" FROM THE STEERING WHEEL. FOR $411 THE DEALERSHIP REPLACED THE STEERING COUPLER AND IT DRIVES LIKE NEW. THIS SHOULD BE A RECALL FOR SAFETY.

I OWN A 2012 HYUNDAI SONATA SE 2.0T. THE CONDITION I AM DESCRIBING HAS PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN WORSE STARTING OUT AS SOMETHING YOU BARLEY NOTICED TO AN ISSUE THAT NOW CAUSES YOU TO BE SCARED TO DRIVE THE CAR. THIS CAR HAS ABOUT 75000 MILES AND HAS A RATTLE NOISE COMING FROM THE STEERING COLUMN ESPECIALLY WHEN TRAVELING OVER A BUMPY SURFACE. AT HIGHER RATES OF SPEED AS ON AN INTERSTATE OR PASSING ANOTHER VEHICLE IT ALSO RATTLES AND THE WHEEL BEGINS TO SHAKE IN YOUR HANDS. IT ALSO HAS A KNOCKING SOUND WHEN THE VEHICLE IS STATIONARY AND YOU ROCK THE STEERING WHEEL BACK AND FORTH. THIS A VERY UNSAFE SITUATION AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THIS ISSUE IS WELL KNOWN WITH OTHER OWNERS OF 2012 SONATAS AND RECALL HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR 2011 VEHICLES. AS I HAVE DISCOVERED THIS CAN BE AN EXPENSIVE REPAIR FOR RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE PARTS. OWNERS SHOULD NOT BE BURDENED WITH REPAIRS FOR WHAT IS CLEARLY A MANUFACTURER OF PART DEFECT. THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE. I HAD INTENDED TO GIVE THIS CAR TO MY DAUGHTER WHO WILL SOON BE A TEEN DRIVER. IT WOULD BE SHAMEFUL FOR AN INEXPERIENCED TEEN DRIVER'S LIFE TO BE AS RISK IN A VEHICLE WITH STEERING PROBLEMS OF THIS NATURE DUE TO THE FACT HER PARENTS CANT AFFORD TO PAY FOR THE REPAIR OR BUY ANOTHER CAR AND THE MANUFACTURER'S UNWILLINGNESS TO STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT. PLEASE ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. MINE IS NOT THE ONLY COMPLAINT / CONCERN OVER THIS. THERE ARE MANY UNHAPPY OWNERS OUT THERE. KEEP IN MIND THESE 2011/2012 SONATAS HAVE HAD SEVERAL ISSUES THAT ARE WELL DOCUMENTED.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2012 HYUNDAI SONATA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHENEVER THE POWER STEERING FEATURE WAS USED, THE STEERING WHEEL MADE A KNOCKING NOISE AND THE STEERING WHEEL SHOOK. A CERTIFIED MECHANIC DIAGNOSED THAT THE POWER STEERING FAILED. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER WHO CONFIRMED THE FAILURE AND STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN A RECALL. THE POWER STEERING SYSTEM NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 70,294.

LOUD NOTICEABLE CLICKING NOISE COMING FROM THE STEERING COLUMN. THE CLICKING NOISE APPEAR WHEN THE CAR IS DRIVEN ON UNEVEN ROADS, SPEED BUMPS OR ON CITY BUMPY ROADS. THE ALARMING CLICKING NOISE IS ALSO NOTICEABLE WHILE THE CAR IS PARKED AND THE STEERING WHEEL IS TURNED FROM SIDE TO SIDE. IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE SINCE WE'VE NOTICED IT, FEW MONTHS AGO TO THE POINT THAT THE CLICKING NOISE IS MUCH LOUDER NOW AND THERE IS A DELAY IN THE STEERING PROCESS. WE TOOK THE CAR SEVERAL TIMES TO THE DEALER WITH NO LUCK ON IDENTIFYING THIS PROBLEM. A WEB SEARCH ON THIS SPECIFIC PROBLEM YIELD MANY RESULTS AND COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER DRIVERS AND CAR OWNERS. I LEARNED ON THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT OUR CAR HAS AND ABOUT THE SERVICE BULLETIN (TSB #14-ST-002-1) THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE MANUFACTURE TO REMEDY THIS HAZARD. THE MANUFACTURE HAS ADVISED THE DEALERS TO REPLACE THE MOTOR DRIVEN POWER STEERING (MDPS) COUPLING, THE ONE THAT WAS INITIALLY INSTALLED IS DETERIORATING. I'M SURPRISED THAT THERE ISN'T ANY RECALL ISSUED YET TO WARN DRIVERS FROM A CHANCE OF TOTAL DETERIORATION OF THE MOTOR DRIVEN POWER STEERING (MDPS) COUPLING. PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THE ONLY WAY I LEARNED ABOUT THIS SAFETY ISSUE IS BY SEARCHING ON THE WEB AND MATCHING THE STEERING FAILURE WITH OTHERS WHO HAVE THE SAME SYMPTOMS, THE DEALERS WE WENT TO COULDN'T PINPOINT THIS ISSUE.

I HAVE NOTICED A KNOCK IN MY STEERING WHEEL. THE NOISE IS GETTING WORSE AND THE STEERING WHEEL VIBRATES WHEN MY TIRES GO OVER A BUMP. I WILL BE BRINGING IT INTO THE SHOP IN A FEW DAYS TO GET REPAIRED. I HAVE DONE RESEARCH AND FOUND THAT THIS IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM THAT COULD RESULT IN A CRASH. HYUNDAI NEEDS TO ISSUE A RECALL ON THIS ITEM, AS IT IS UNSAFE TO CONTINUE DRIVING THE VEHICLE. IF THIS DOESN'T WARRANT A RECALL OR CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT DOES. MY VEHICLE WAS UNDER THE 100,000 MILE WARRANTY WHEN THIS ISSUE BEGAN, BUT HAS GOT EXCESSIVELY WORSE. I JUST RAN OUT ON MY 1000,000 MILE WARRANTY, BY ABOUT 250 MILES.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2012 HYUNDAI SONATA. WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS STARTED, THE POWER STEERING ASSIST FAILED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE REQUIRED ADDITIONAL EFFORT TO STEER. THE CONTACT ALSO STATED THAT THERE WAS AN ABNORMAL CLICKING SOUND COMING FROM THE STEERING WHEEL. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER TO BE DIAGNOSED. THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE POWER ASSIST IN THE STEERING COLUMN FAILED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED; HOWEVER, THE REPAIR FAILED TO REMEDY THE FAILURE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 65,000. UPDATED 10/06/16*LJ *TR

STARTED HEARING A KNOCKING NOISE IN THE STEERING COLUMN WHILE TURNING. THE STEERING WHEEL LITERALLY FEELS LIKE IT IS GOING TO FALL OFF IN MY LAP. IT HAS PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN WORSE QUITE RAPIDLY TO THE POINT WHERE IT DOES IT AS I DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD NORMALLY AROUND 65 MPH OR FASTER. IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE THE CAR WILL WALK ALL OVER THE ROAD WHILE IT IS MAKING THIS NOISE. THE STEERING WHEEL ALSO HAS SLACK AND MAKES A KNOCKING NOISE WHILE STATIONARY IF YOU MOVE IT BACK AND FORTH. I INITIALLY THOUGHT MY TIE RODS HAD ALREADY WORN OUT ON THE VEHICLE. I TOOK IT IN TO HAVE THE TIE RODS REPLACED TO FIND OUT IT IS IN MY STEERING COLUMN. IT SEEMS AS IF A BOX IN THE STEERING COLUMN IS LOOSE OR BAD AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD I AM GOING TO LOSE THE STEERING SHAFT IF IT DOESN'T GET FIXED. IT IS ALSO BELIEVED THAT MY AIRBAG LIGHT HAS COME ON DUE TO THIS SAME ISSUE. IT HAS CAUSED A SENSOR IN THE STEERING WHEEL TO GO OUT. I CALLED THE DEALER TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY KIND OF RECALL FOR THE STEERING ON MY CAR AND THEY SAY THEY DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING. BUT THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND SAID THAT MY STEERING COUPLER MOST LIKELY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. IT IS GOING TO SET ME BACK AT LEAST $350. SINCE THIS SEEMS TO BE A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE AND A KNOWN ISSUE, I ASK WHY THERE ISNT A RECALL AND JUST GOT TOLD HE DOESNT KNOW. I WAS READING THAT THERE IS THIS SAME ISSUE IN THE 2011 SONATAS. MY CAR IS A 2012 BUT WAS ACTUALLY MANUFACTURED IN DEC 2011 BUT THEY STILL WONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

STEERING COUPLER NEEDS TO BE REPLACED MAKES LOUD KNOCKING NOISE WHILE DRIVING OVER NUMBS OR TURNING.SEEMS TO BE AN OCCURRING PROBLEM WITH SONATA 2012. DEALER WANTS $550 TO REPLACE A $2 PART. THAT'S CORRECT A $2 PART LOCATED IN THE STEERING WHEEL. THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS AND A SCAM THAT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND MADE A RECALL ASAP.

ON AUGUST 06, 2016 I DISCOVERED A NOISE EMITTING FROM MY STEERING WHEEL. ON MONDAY AUGUST 08, 2016 I WENT TO MY HYUNDAI DEALERSHIP FOR AN OPINION. THE SERVICE TECHNICIAN/WRITER INFORMED ME THAT THERE IS A RUBBER BUSHING IN THE STEERING WHEEL COUPLER HAS STARTED TO SHOW SIGN OF DETERIORATION. THIS MUST BE REPLACED AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY. FAILURE TO DO SO IN A TIMELY MANNER WILL RENDER THE STEERING UNUSABLE. FAILURE OF STEERING CONTROL WILL CAUSE AN ACCIDENT. SUCH ACCIDENT WILL CAUSE BODILY INJURY AND OR DEATH. RESEARCHING THE SYMPTOM AND CAUSE ON-THE-INTERNET, I CAME ACROSS RECALLS AND CONCERNS BY HYUNDAI IN REGARD TO SAFETY ISSUES THAT WILL RESULT IN POWER STEERING LOSS THUS, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH TO OTHERS AND SELF. IT MUST BE NOTED THAT HYUNDAI, IN THE PAST, ACTED PROACTIVELY TO PREVENT A RECALL...I HOPE THIS COMPLAINT WILL BE A CASE TO CONSIDER. COMPLAINTS FOR A 2012 YEAR VEHICLE WITH FAILED MOTOR DRIVEN POWER STEERING("MDPS") FLEXIBLE COUPLING. HIS VERY FIRST QUESTION AFTER DESCRIBING MY CONCERN IS "WHAT YEAR IS YOUR VEHICLE". ACCORDING TO THE HARBOR HYUNDAI TECHNICAL WRITER, THIS CONCERN IS NOW BECOMING A REGULAR OCCURRENCE. A COMPARATIVE OF A GOOD AND BAD (CHEWED-UP) MDPS COUPLING WAS SHOWN TO ME. THIS MDPS COUPLING SPACER SITS BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH. THIS VEHICLE WAS BUILT IN FEBRUARY 2012. I TRUST, ALL COMPONENTS INSTALLED IN ITS ASSEMBLY WAS NOT PART OF 2011. THERE ARE MANY COMPLAINTS MADE TO THE DEALER THAT IS RELATIVE TO MY VEHICLE PERTINENT TO 2011 RECALLS. FEEL FREE TO ACCESS DATA HISTORY FROM HARBOR HYUNDAI, CA. THIS IS A BLANKET AUTHORIZATION TO ACCESS SERVICE, REPAIRS AND CONCERNS REPORTED. IN SOME CASES, THEY ARE STILL OUTSTANDING SUBJECT TO A REMEDY. I HOPE YOU OFFICE WILL CONSIDER THIS COMPLAINT AND START A RECALL PROCEDURE BEFORE LIVES ARE LOST

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2012 HYUNDAI SONATA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING AT APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH, THE STEERING WHEEL SEIZED WITHOUT WARNING. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT TOOK GREATER EFFORTS TO STEER THE VEHICLE AND WHEN THE STEERING RESTORED, THE VEHICLE JERKED. THE FAILURE RECURRED NUMEROUS TIMES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE ELECTRONIC STEERING MODULE FAILED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 104,000.

MY 2012 SONATA WITH 89300 MILES WAS MAKING CLICKING NOISE WHEN I TURNED THE STEERING WHEEL. THE STEERING WAS LOSE. WHEN GOING OVER BUMPS THE STEERING WHEEL SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS COMING APART MAKING A HARSH METAL CLANKING SOUND. I TOOK IT INTO HYAUNDI AND THEY REPLACED THE STEERING COUPLER AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE FIXED THE ISSUE. THIS SEEMS LIKE A MAJOR SAFTEY ISSUE WITH THIS CAR WHICH SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF BY HYAUNDI.

CLUNK NOISE IN THE STEERING WHEEL THAT IS GETTING WORST WHILE I AM DRIVING, TURNING, SPEED BUMPS, STATIONARY JUST TOUCHING THE WHEEL MAKES THE HORRIBLE NOISE. I WAS READING A 2011 RECALL PROBABLY THE SAME PROBLEM.

WHILE DRIVING MY VEHICLE AT ANY SPEED, THE STEERING WHEEL MAKES A LOUD GRINDING NOISE WHEN TURNED TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT. THE SOUND IS THE LOUDEST WHEN TURNING THE WHEEL TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN OR WHEN REVERSING TO PARK. WHEN TURNING THE STEERING WHEEL, IT SOUNDS AS IF THE STEERING WHEEL IS GRINDING AGAINST A PART. THIS NOISE HAS BEGAN IN THE LAST MONTH. *TR