2013 Honda CR-V Engine

HAVE 2013 HONDA CR-V AND WHEN GO TO START IT AFTER SITTING OVERNIGHT MAKES LOUD GRINDING NOISE FOR 1-2 SECONDS. DEALERSHIP SAYS IT'S THE VTC ACTUATOR AND IS A KNOW PROBLEM BUT NOT RECALL HAS BEEN ISSUED. THEY WANT 500 BUCKS TO FIX THE ISSUES SINCE CAR OF COURSE ISN'T UNDER WARRANTY AND WON'T WORK WITH ME AT ALL. VERY UNPROFESSIONAL IN MY OPINION OF HONDA WITH AN ISSUES THAT IS KNOW AND COMMON.

ON THE FIRST START OF THE DAY, ESPECIALLY COLD DAYS, THE ENGINE MAKES A LOUD GRINDING/RATTLING NOISE. THE DEALERSHIP CLAIMS THAT THERE ISN'T A FIX FOR THE ISSUE. IT CLAIMS THAT IT IS A DESIGN FLAW AND DOESN'T HURT THE ENGINE. ACCORDING TO THEM, THE OIL DRAINS FROM THE PART OVERNIGHT AND THE "NOISE" IS CAUSED BY LACK OF OIL TO THAT PART. AS SOON AS THE PART GETS OIL IT STOPS. (ABOUT 2-3 SECONDS) ACCORDING TO RESEARCH I'VE DONE ON THE INTERNET, THE ISSUE HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITHOUT A FIX AND IS SOMEWHAT COMMON. I BOUGHT THE CAR IN APRIL AND DIDN'T EXPERIENCE THE PROBLEM UNTIL LATE FALL. IT TOOK ME MONTHS TO PROVE TO THE DEALERSHIP THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM.SHAME ON HONDA. I'VE OWNED HONDA CARS AND HAVE BEEN LOYAL TO HONDA FOR 25 YEARS, BUT NO LONGER.

CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND SEVERAL OTHER WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON DASH. CAR HAS 77,806 MILES. DEALER SAID TIMING CHAIN IS STRETCHED. I HAVE HAD ALL RECOMMENDED MAINTENANCE PERFORMED ON THE VEHICLE AND AM THE ONLY OWNER. SERVICE DEPARTMENT SAID I SHOULD GET OIL CHANGES MORE OFTEN THAN RECOMMENDED. THIS SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A NORMAL 'WEAR' ITEM AT THIS AGE/MILEAGE.

SPORADIC GRINDING NOISE AFTER SETTING OVERNIGHT. TOOK TO DEALER, THEY SAID WOULD HAVE TO HEAR IT BEFORE THEY COULD DO ANYTHING. LEFT UNTIL THE NEXT DAY. NO SATISFACTION ON MY PART. STILL DOES IT. IT WAS UNDER WARRANTY WHEN TAKEN IN, BUT IS OUT OF WARRANTY NOW.

2013 HONDA CRV SHAKES AT SPEED 30-45 MPH DURING ACCELERATION. SHAKES SOMETIMES GOES AWAY WHEN FOOT IS REMOVED MOMENTARILY AND GAS IS REAPPLIED. ALREADY MADE ATTEMPT TO HAVE ISSUE FIX AT DAYTONA HONDA DEALERSHIP, TRANSMISSION FLUID WAS FLUSHED AND FUEL INJECTORS CLEANED. SHAKING RETURNED AFTER A FEW WEEKS.

I'VE PREVIOUSLY REPORTED THE VTC ACTUATOR PROBLEM O THIS SITE AND AMERICAN HONDA WITH ZERO SATISFACTION. THE PROBLEM HAS CONTINUED AND I GET CONFLICTING INFORMATION FROM MY DEALER AND AMERICAN HONDA. THE ORIGINAL COMPLAINT NUMBER WAS 10783068. UPON RE-INQUIRING WITH AMERICAN HONDA THEY'VE INFORMED ME THAT THIS PROBLEM HAS NOT BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH MY VIN WHICH AGAIN IS INCORRECT BASED ON DEALERSHIP FEEDBACK. HONDA HAS REFUSED TO PERMIT ME THE ABILITY TO SPEAK TO A CUSTOMER CARE SUPERIOR OR TO SHARE WITH ME THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION OF OTHER KNOWN VTC ACTUATOR PROBLEMS. PLEASE INVESTIGATE AND DETEREMINE EXACTLY WHY HONDA IS BEING PERMITTED TO IGNORE THIS KNOWN AND WIDESPREAD PROBLEM?

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA CR-V. WHEN STARTING THE ENGINE IN COLD TEMPERATURES, AN ABNORMAL METAL GRINDING NOISE EMITTED FROM THE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE RECURRED UPON INITIAL START-UP IN COLDER TEMPERATURES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE VTC ACTUATOR FAILED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 30,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA CR-V. WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS STARTED, THE CONTACT OBSERVED AN ABNORMAL NOISE FROM THE ENGINE WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 35,000. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.

WHEN IT'S COLD OUTSIDE AND IF THE CAR HAS SET FOR MORE THAN A FEW HOURS, THE CAR MAKES A TERRIBLE RATTLING SOUND WHEN THE ENGINE STARTS.

EVERY TIME I START MY CAR IN THE MORNING AND SOMETIMES OTHER TIMES DURING THE DAY IT MAKES A TERRIBLE GRINDING NOISE

THE VEHICLE IS BURNING 1.5 QUARTS OF OIL AT OIL CHANGE INTERVALS. I NOTICE A RATTLING THAT LASTS ABOUT 30 SECONDS AT START UP,IN THE MORNING OR WHEN IS COLD; AFTER THE RATTLING,THE ENGINE SOUNDS NORMAL.

VTC SPINS AFTER IGNITION STARTS: DEALER STATES THAT THIS PROBLEM IS NOT TO BE ADDRESSED PER HONDA MANUFACTURER POLICY.

VTC ACTUATOR IS FAILING CAUSING A GRINDING SOUND WHEN STARTING THE VEHICLE. HONDA HAS RECOGNIZED AND ADMITTED TO A DEFECTIVE PART. CONTINUED TO SELL CARS KNOWING THE PARTS WERE DEFECTIVE. 2014-2015 HONDAS HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. HONDA REPORTS IT IS NOT DOING DAMAGE TO THE ENGINE OR ANY COMPONENTS. THEY ARE OFFERING NO ASSISTANCE IN THE MATTER.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA CR-V. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE STARTING THE VEHICLE, THE CONTACT HEARD AN ABNORMAL NOISE FROM THE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE RECURRED TWICE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE VTC ACTUATOR NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 18,500....UPDATED 02/03/16 *BF GRINDING NOISE DURING COLD START UP UPDATED 4/23/18*JB *CN

ENGINE GRINDING NOISE WHEN CROSSING UP AND DOWN STRUCTURES LIKE BRIDGES. ESPECIALLY ON HIGHWAY WHILE TAKING EXITS. AT A TIMES IT FEELS LIKE THE ENGINE IS ABOUT TO DIE. THIS GRINDING NOISE IS DISTURBING MY CONFIDENCE TO DRIVE THE VEHICLE SAFELY.

I NOTICED A RATTLING NOISE DURING COLD STARTS FROM THE ENGINE THAT CONTINUED WELL INTO THE SUMMER. I REPORTED IT TO MY HONDA DEALER (BILL PAGE/FALLS CHURCH, VA) AND REFERRED TO THE WELL DOCUMENTED VTC ACTUATOR PROBLEM REPORTED ON THE INTERNET BASED ON VIDEO AND AUDIO SIMILARITIES IN THE NOISES I WAS HEARING. THE DEALER BEING AWARE OF THE PROBLEM REFRAINED FROM ANY INVESTIGATION OR CORRECTION UNTIL THEY RECEIVED A CORRECTIVE SOLUTION FROM HONDA. I REPORTED THE PROBLEM TO HONDA AMERICA AND THE DEALER LATER IN 2015 AFTER MY HONDA DEALER TECHNICIAN REPTD NO SOLUTION HAS COME FROM HONDA. I RECEIVED A CALL FROM HONDA REGARDING MY COMPLAINT SUGGESTING THE VTC ACTUATOR PROBLEM IS LIMITED TO ALASKA AND I SHOULD MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH MY DEALER TO INVESTIGATE. AS A RESULT TO A SWITCH TO SYNTHETIC OIL AT THE DEALER THE NOISE SEEMS TO HAVE GONE. UNFORTUNATELY THIS DOES NOT GUARANTEE THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM HAS NOT DAMAGED THE ENGINE OR WON'T REAPPEAR IF I DECIDE TO RETURN TO CONVENTIONAL OIL. THE OFFICIAL POSITION BY HONDA VS. THE DEALER SEEMS TO PROMOTE A STAND-OFF TO COMPENSATE FOR A LACK OF A FULLY RELIABLE SOLUTION IN THAT THE DEALER IS TOLD NOT TO INITIATE REPAIRS FOR THIS PROBLEM UNTIL A SOLUTION IS DISTRIBUTED BY HONDA WHILE HONDA CLAIMS THE PROBLEM IS NOT UNIVERSAL AND IS TRYING TO MINIMIZE ITS SCOPE; LEAVING CONSUMERS IN THE MIDDLE TRYING TO MAKE THEIR CRVS OR OTHER MODEL HONDAS RELIABLE WHILE STILL UNDER WARRANTY. I WILL CONTINUE PURSUIT OF A FIX WITH HONDA AMERICA BUT FEEL NHTSA SHOULD PRESSURE HONDA TO ADDRESS THIS WELL KNOWN AND PUBLICIZED FAULT WITH SOME SORT OF PERMANENT FIX. FOR A MANUFACTURER WHO CLAIMS THEIR VEHICLES ARE HIGHLY RELIABLE HONDA APPARENT DECEPTION REGARDING THIS PROBLEM NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND I HOPE NHTSA FORCES THIS ACTION TO OCCUR. I ALSO PROVIDED NHTSA WITH A COPY OF MY 7/25/15 LETTER TO AMERICAN HONDA.

WHEN I START THE ENGINE IN THE MORNING (COLD), IT MAKES A WHIRRING/GRATING SOUND THAT LASTS JUST A COUPLE OF SECONDS. IT DOESN'T MAKE THIS SOUND AGAIN ALL DAY, EVEN WHEN THE VEHICLE SITS FOR 8+ HOURS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TEMPERATURE-DEPENDENT.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA CR-V. WHEN STARTING THE ENGINE IN COLDER WEATHER, THE VEHICLE EXHIBITED AN ABNORMAL GRINDING METAL NOISE. THE FAILURE RECURRED UPON INITIAL START-UP IN COLDER TEMPERATURES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE VTC ACTUATOR WAS FAULTY. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 14,000. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE.

AS I REPORTED LAST YEAR, THERE IS A VTC ACTUATOR DESIGN FLAW THAT CREATES A GRINDING NOISE WHEN THE TEMPS FALL BELOW FREEZING AND IN SOME CASES EVEN ABOVE FREEZING MAINLY DUE TO LACK OF OIL PRESSURE AND THE ACTUATOR NOT LOCKING CORRECTLY. WELL, ANOTHER WINTER HAS COME AND GONE AND THERE IS STILL NO HINT OF A FIX FROM HONDA. THEY CLAIM THERE IS NO DAMAGE OCCURRING BUT ANY TIME I HEAR METAL ON METAL I BEG TO DIFFER. UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS POINT I AM LOOKING AT OPTIONS SUCH AS TRADING THE VEHICLE IN AS I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF SERIOUS DAMAGE IS BEING DONE EACH WINTER WITH METAL ON METAL GRINDING. HONDA SURE HAS LOST THEIR PRESTIGIOUS CLAIM OF RELIABILITY IN MY EYES. SADLY THIS WILL BE MY LAST HONDA PRODUCT AS THEY DON'T SEEM TO ADDRESS CUSTOMER CONCERNS IN ANY KIND OF TIMELY MANNER. *TR

A YEAR AGO I NOTICED AT TIMES A NOISE LIKE I AM TRYING TO START THE VEHICLE WITH IT ALREADY RUNNING. THE OTHER DAY ON INITIAL START IT MADE A LOUDER NOISE. THE BEST I CAN TELL IS A PROBLEM WITH THE VTC ACTUATOR.

GRINDING SOUND UPON START. PROBABLY THE VTC ACTUATOR. *TR

DURING WINTER MONTHS AT FREEZING AND BELOW PART # 110153 VARIABLE TIMING CONTROL, VTC ACTUATOR MALFUNCTIONS. AT THE FIRST START UP THE VEHICLE MAKES A GRINDING NOISE (METAL UPON METAL). THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY THE ORIGINATING DEALER AND I WAS TOLD THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS HAPPENS CONSISTENTLY IN CRV-S WHEN THE TEMPERATURE FALLS AT OR FREEZING THAT THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. THE ENGINE WON'T FREEZE UP NOR WILL THERE BE ANY DAMAGE TO THE POWER TRAIN? THE PART IN QUESTION IS UNABLE (AT LOW TEMPERATURES) TO PUSH OIL UP INTO THE ENGINE UPON INITIAL COLD START-UP IN THE MORNINGS . THIS WAS HOW IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME BY THE DEALER. WHEN I ASKED TO SPEAK TO THE HONDA REPRESENTATIVE WHO WAS AT THE STORE WHEN THE DEALER REPLACED THE PART ON 11 NOVEMBER, 2014 (AND WITHIN LESS THAN 24 HOURS IT FAILED) I WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO DO SO. I LIVED WITH THIS ALL OF LAST WINTER AND NOW THIS WINTER AS WELL OR SO IT APPEARS. I WAS INFORMED BY THE DEALER THAT THIS WAS AN ISSUE ON SEVERAL 2013 HONDA CR-V'S SOLD IN STATES WHERE THE CLIMATE IS FREEZING OR BELOW. I WAS ALSO INFORMED THAT A FIX WAS IN THE WORKS BY HONDA. WELL A FIX HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS NOW SINCE AT LEAST FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR 2014 AND NOTHING HAS BEEN ACHIEVED. I WAS TOLD BY THE DEALER TO CALL HONDA CUSTOMER RELATIONS. THE DEALER WIPED THEIR HANDS OF THE SITUATION. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL NOT BE DAMAGE TO THE ENGINE ( AND POSSIBLY CAUSE IT TO FREEZE UP WHILE ON THE ROAD) POTENTIALLY CAUSING A SERIOUS HAZARD/ACCIDENT. LAST, (AND LEAST OF ALL) WHEN I WANT TO SELL AND/OR TRADE IN THIS VEHICLE IT'S VALUE WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED BECAUSE OF THIS DEFECT THAT I AM (BY LAW) REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE. FUNNY HOW THE DEALER KNEW THIS WHEN THEY SOLD ME THE CAR BUT NEVER DISCLOSED THE DEFECT TO ME! *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA CRV. THE CONTACT STATED THAT UPON STARTING THE VEHICLE, THERE WAS A GRINDING NOISE HEARD ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER, WHO DIAGNOSED THAT THE VARIABLE TIMING CONTROL ACTUATOR NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED BUT THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS RETURNED WITHIN A WEEK OF THE REPAIR AND THE SAME EXACT PART WAS REPLACED. THE VEHICLE EXHIBITED THE FAILURE AGAIN BUT WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE CONTACT STILL HEARD THE GRINDING NOISE WITH NO REMEDY FOR THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE AUTHORIZED DEALER, WHO WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE PERSISTED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 4000.

ON COLD DAYS AT FIRST START UP THE ENGINE MAKES A GRINDING NOISE. THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR ACCORDS AND CR-V SINCE 2008. HONDA HAS ISSUED A BULLETIN SAYING IT'S THE VTC ACTUATOR BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO PERMANENT FIX OR RECALL ON DEFECTIVE PART(S). GRINDING NOISE CAN BE SPORADIC SO ONLY IF DEALER CAN REPLICATE ISSUE WILL THEY REPLACE THE ACTUATOR AND EVEN THEN GRINDING NOISE CAN RETURN WEEKS OR MONTHS LATER WHEN IT GETS COLD AGAIN (I,E, EVERY WINTER). FOR A PROBLEM THAT HAS EXISTED FOR SO MANY YEARS, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PERMANENT FIX BY NOW. ESPECIALLY FOR A BRAND NEW VEHICLE. IN MY CASE I'VE HAD THE GRINDING NOISE SINCE DECEMBER '13 ALTHOUGH SPORADIC AS MENTIONED DEPENDING ON OUTSIDE TEMP AND HOW LONG THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BE STARTED. *TR

UPON INITIAL STARTUP OF THE ENGINE THERE IS A GRINDING SOUND. THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE HAS ONLY OCCURRED TWICE AND HARD TO REPLICATE UNLESS IT'S VERY COLD. AT FIRST IT SOUNDED LIKE A STARTER ISSUE, BUT OTHERS HAVE SAID IT'S THE VTC ACTUATOR AND AN OIL PRESSURE ISSUE WHEN IT'S COLD OUTSIDE. EVEN THOUGH MY CAR IS GARAGED IT HAS OCCURRED TWICE IN TWO WEEKS SO IT IS A CONCERN. DEALERSHIP WILL NOT DO ANYTHING UNLESS THEY CAN REPLICATE IT. THIS VIDEO SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT THE SOUND IS LIKE: HTTP://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=KR20BAOXBO8. *TR